From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 10 1:27:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pixel.pixelfusion.co.uk (koo.pixelfusion.co.uk [195.10.240.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B616153AD for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 01:27:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@pixelfusion.co.uk) Received: from bond (alu92.pixelfusion.co.uk [192.168.45.156]) by pixel.pixelfusion.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA08709; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:26:59 GMT From: "Jeff Bond" To: "Salvo Bartolotta" Cc: Subject: RE: Gnome and 3.3-RELEASE Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:27:35 -0000 Message-ID: <000801bf42f0$cb471200$9c2da8c0@pixelfusion.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19991209.19525300@bartequi.ottodomain.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Salvo, Thanks for your reply! I did try starting enlightenment first, but It made no difference. I still get all the (non functional) enlightenment desktop icons, and funny pager windows which keep coming back after I close them (grrr!), and and empty gnome panel. I also seem to get many more core dumps from the various gnome apps. I know it's far from stable on any platform, but I had much less crashing on Redhat, and it just worked without any fiddling. It seems from the freebsd-questions archive that other people are experiencing this too. I know FreeBSD improves with every release (I've used it since 2.2.2), but I really think the developers should concentrate more on making it just work 'out of the box'. Not that I'm against fiddling - I enjoy building kernels, and setting up networking etc., but configuring a basic desktop is not something I want to waste my time on. I tend to agree with you about not really liking either KDE or Gnome. Both KDE and Gnome try to copy MS Windows too much, along with all it's bad GUI design features (Start menu for example). It strikes me that the developers of both are more concerned about making them 'look' great, rather than 'function' great. Regards, Jeff (not subscribed to list) (again, inclined to use Redhat when I'd much prefer FreeBSD!) > -----Original Message----- > From: Salvo Bartolotta [mailto:bartequi@nojunk.com] > Sent: 09 December 1999 19:53 > To: Jeff Bond > Subject: Re: Gnome and 3.3-RELEASE > > > Dear Jeff Bond, > > although I am using KDE at present, I did use Gnome when I first > installed FreeBSD 3.3 at the beginning of October. > > At that time, I used the following workaround: start enlightenment in To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message