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Date:      Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:27:35 -0000
From:      "Jeff Bond" <jeff@pixelfusion.co.uk>
To:        "Salvo Bartolotta" <bartequi@nojunk.com>
Cc:        <questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: Gnome and 3.3-RELEASE
Message-ID:  <000801bf42f0$cb471200$9c2da8c0@pixelfusion.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <19991209.19525300@bartequi.ottodomain.org>

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Hi Salvo,

Thanks for your reply!

I did try starting enlightenment first, but It made no difference. I still
get all the (non functional) enlightenment desktop icons, and funny pager
windows which keep coming back after I close them (grrr!), and and empty
gnome panel.

I also seem to get many more core dumps from the various gnome apps. I know
it's far from stable on any platform, but I had much less crashing on
Redhat, and it just worked without any fiddling. It seems from the
freebsd-questions archive that other people are experiencing this too.

I know FreeBSD improves with every release (I've used it since 2.2.2), but I
really think the developers should concentrate more on making it just work
'out of the box'. Not that I'm against fiddling - I enjoy building kernels,
and setting up networking etc., but configuring a basic desktop is not
something I want to waste my time on.

I tend to agree with you about not really liking either KDE or Gnome. Both
KDE and Gnome try to copy MS Windows too much, along with all it's bad GUI
design features (Start menu for example).

It strikes me that the developers of both are more concerned about making
them 'look' great, rather than 'function' great.

Regards,
Jeff (not subscribed to list)

(again, inclined to use Redhat when I'd much prefer FreeBSD!)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Salvo Bartolotta [mailto:bartequi@nojunk.com]
> Sent: 09 December 1999 19:53
> To: Jeff Bond
> Subject: Re: Gnome and 3.3-RELEASE
>
>
> Dear Jeff Bond,
>
> although I am using KDE at present, I did use Gnome when I first
> installed FreeBSD 3.3 at the beginning of October.
>
> At that time, I used the following workaround: start enlightenment in

<SNIP>



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