From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Dec 19 17: 1:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from ggong.harvestberkeley.org (ggong.baycis.com [209.133.107.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BA237B419 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:01:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from blah (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ggong.harvestberkeley.org (8.11.2/8.11.3) with SMTP id fBK10bK10568; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:00:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ggong@cal.alumni.berkeley.edu) Message-ID: <013b01c188f1$b3788340$1400a8c0@blah.com> From: "Gilbert Gong" To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" , "Terry Lambert" , "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "Andrew C. Hornback" , References: <003701c18819$a9941a20$6600000a@ach.domain> <3C1FF8DA.2DBC501C@mindspring.com> <013b01c18844$b2ff8b50$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C202951.D39F0144@mindspring.com> <005201c188b4$9bd4cd30$a700a8c0@cptnhosedonkey> Subject: Re: Microsoft Advocacy? Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:00:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What the hell is this, if you don't support The Cause 100%, you're one of > the enemy ? This makes me sick. Do you have to hate Microsoft and agree > with everything they're accused of in order to support FreeBSD ? What the > hell are we now, linux-advocacy ? FreeBSD stands on it's own merits, not by > detracting from others. Hm, I think one of the big problems here is that Anthony keeps stating that Unix has no place in the desktop. That is fine as an opinion, I suppose, but not very FreeBSD-advocating. I would argue that Unix has a potential place in the desktop. In fact, we have to remember that the biggest Unix desktop vendor, Apple (via OS X), built their kernel on a FreeBSD code base. To bash Unix on the desktop is to bash OS X, which is to indirectly bash FreeBSD (and all other BSDs, as well as all Unixes). Anothony, many of us would feel a lot less upset if you would not state so strongly that Unix has no place in the desktop. Since this is a FreeBSD-advocacy list, I don't think it is unreasonable to ask you to keep the FreeBSD bashing down, even if it is an indirect bash. And yes I do use some microsoft products, and in fact do use MS on the desktop (as you could tell by reading my mail headers). Gilbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message