From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 10 01:52:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24493762 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 01:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm16-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm16-vm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FCEC1623 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 01:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.98.54] by nm16.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2013 01:51:57 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.109] by tm7.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2013 01:51:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp146.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2013 01:51:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1386640317; bh=1FSjh04vP+jSRvFJwAQiFwrD/NazoFxswash5tcK7sA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kX3ote5ilTzf2X072IUhiyAWFiEucT1RxMJmuZAp0rwCWf/FLAcoCkbObeNtCBPx+faLpTu5k2Oxd37pipMbQbb+eLNxu5/Pld3xE4llW0KuHSaJzUyB1rIDWym1HUpwIZf6j/OxMR00aigaCDIqs/5HgaJCXhrOi17EopC3IwM= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 118709.30027.bm@smtp146.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 2CUIOLEVM1mfrjvDT9k0giKx3OPz7Rj5puLmpUeHfY8D.Ti trLKEG1kaYQi00Qjrca.OiSi9hg8Ba.xM10gwGF85vhgPIL7n71VcvWSmyXv T0dpa6Hsgf465zUEJLcLuKnFg0Z.w6BrUObJ8OqjAjbWLPyDCcAn91Wkvfpl 7Zc14jfxgDy8QTSRfuBodJCgsiHNnqS7DM2Dnb1dbuNbcOfoGOMaJ5lik.q0 hvdNIEu.VyV81TXYfy_EVQPODjkUmeK3zAi1K2fh1Oei5ayAfUea_K7A9JV7 CQLlzyJvV4fABTl.Unv5rB6.GlErTQayzaKgk17RwLyo0T1NR2hZe6oIo.WN _5ySh4evGt8KdZ0srHKHiXn2IQSIEig1.OQmzUWME4dFBXOO4_xVqSp1UtCv lLPZvJHthy2zMTXg.HX82nuQl84UHiKyApkYX31uquBepkwWoPnjw8CQ1o33 Jqnu0ErqvoUa9I9G5NpxQS0SwrduIqk6JIidJnBPl.wG9A2G0qzWadZnEiB5 DfPcssGhgR9SWX3wIUYgCFcSmelk- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- X-Rocket-Received: from [78.50.23.62] (ralf.mardorf@78.50.23.62 with ) by smtp146.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2013 01:51:57 +0000 UTC Message-ID: <1386640317.14806.190.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: [Bulk] Gnome3??? no way!!! From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 02:51:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1386635953.13998.35.camel@lenovo.toontown> References: <1386221592.4385.16.camel@debian> <1386253808.8359.5.camel@debian> <57cd35243ed489e9f5870195edfe97e7@mhoenicka.de> <1386635953.13998.35.camel@lenovo.toontown> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 01:52:05 -0000 On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 22:39 -0200, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Gnome3, in my oppinion is for "geek" users a lot of "geek" users not necessarily like to use proprietary drivers and the 3D acceleration provided by free drivers often isn't fast enough to use GNOME3, that now has got no mode anymore to use it without 3D acceleration. Current versions of X and older proprietary ATI driver often can't be used together, IOW sometimes a proprietary driver can't be used, even if the user should be willing to use proprietary drivers. GNOME comes with tons of insane hard dependencies, perhaps unimportant when building GNOME from ports, but likely it will need some patches. With each new "stable" GKT3 release from upstream there are new bugs/features that are just a PITA and they effect even users who stay away from crappy GNOME. LXDE already switches to Qt.