From owner-freebsd-net Sat Sep 8 11:40:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from silby.com (cb34181-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.14.173.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032B437B409 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 11:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23307 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Sep 2001 18:40:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Sep 2001 18:40:21 -0000 Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 13:40:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Silbersack To: Len Conrad Cc: Subject: =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?Re=3A_tracing_an_attack_using_spoofed_ip=B4s?= In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010908114909.02a00920@mail.Go2France.com> Message-ID: <20010908133516.K23209-100000@achilles.silby.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Len Conrad wrote: > The above section of the maillog report is about 3600 lines, so are you > saying that 3600 unspoofed, different ip=B4s are doing the attack? That= =B4s > "distributed" if I ever saw one. > > I suppose one "master" PC could be relaying through all those open relays > against this one MX host. If someone's vicious enough, that doesn't sound too unbelieveable. But, regarding the possibility of tcp spoofing: What version of FreeBSD is the client running? If it's < 4.2 that is a possibility. However, given that the IPs are almost all from open relays, it seems much more likely that this has nothing to do with spoofing. What is the content of these e-mails? I wonder if it's possible that someone is spamming with an e-mail address at your client's domain. Subsequently, those being spammed at using ordb/rbl to reject the message, and the open relay is then sending your client the bounce message. Mike "Silby" Silbersack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message