From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 7 4:22:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8682A37B401 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 04:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lakemtao04.cox.net (lakemtao04.cox.net [68.1.17.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C621043E6E for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 04:22:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ataraxia@cox.net) Received: from arkadia.nv.cox.net ([68.98.181.29]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20021107122209.IGBL1315.lakemtao04.cox.net@arkadia.nv.cox.net>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:22:09 -0500 Received: from arkadia.nv.cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arkadia.nv.cox.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gA7Bue0i009956; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:57:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ataraxia@arkadia.nv.cox.net) Received: (from ataraxia@localhost) by arkadia.nv.cox.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gA7BuJeJ009952; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:56:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ataraxia) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:56:19 -0500 (EST) From: Ray Kohler Message-Id: <200211071156.gA7BuJeJ009952@arkadia.nv.cox.net> To: ataraxia@cox.net, keramida@ceid.upatras.gr Subject: Re: sendmail without (real) hostname? Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20021107034627.GA990@gray.sea.gr> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From keramida@ceid.upatras.gr Wed Nov 6 23:00:20 2002 > Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 05:46:27 +0200 > From: Giorgos Keramidas > To: Ray Kohler > Subject: Re: sendmail without (real) hostname? > > On 2002-11-06 21:15, Ray Kohler wrote: > >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >>Funny. All ISPs that have a tiny sort of sense and respect for their > >>users that have dynamically allocated IP addresses will usually > >>provide at least one mail relay. If not for any other reason, to let > >>them send email to servers that refuse all messages from hosts whose > >>forward and reverse DNS lookups fail (a lot of the servers use this as > >>a form of antispam measure). > > > > It's a `no servers allowed' ISP. > > As long as you are not letting people relay mail through you, and only > use your ISPs mail gateway to relay your own mail to the world, you > are not a `server' as far as the ISP is concerned. Just a usual SMTP > client. They most certainly keep a mail gateway handy for their > users, since the most popular mail user agents in the Windows world > tend to fail miserably without one :) > Well, before I used your tip, the relay would fail because the `from:' part of the envelope was invalid, but now I suppose I ought to use the `smart host' feature since it ought to work. - @ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message