From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 14 11:14:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9C616A4CE for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 11:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C23343D1F for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 11:14:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B2b3i-0000GI-00 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:14:02 +0100 Received: from 213-203-244-156.kunde.vdserver.de ([213.203.244.156]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:14:02 +0100 Received: from kai by 213-203-244-156.kunde.vdserver.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:14:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Kai Grossjohann Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:14:08 +0100 Lines: 41 Message-ID: <87llm3utq7.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> References: <874qsrwfiz.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <20040314170038.GA88557@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 213-203-244-156.kunde.vdserver.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:rkxY6wtXMSdfdCOHHL36NX9dfyA= Sender: news Subject: Re: Binary upgrades? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 19:14:04 -0000 Matthew Seaman writes: > On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 05:37:56PM +0100, Kai Grossjohann wrote: > >> I wonder if this could be made easier. I'd be surprised if there >> wasn't a method of doing binary upgrades already. For example, if we >> decided to track releases, would that enable us to do binary upgrades >> using sysinstall, say? I vaguely remember having seen an upgrade >> option in there... > > http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-update Yes, being able to install security updates is a cool thing. I've now installed it and read the freebsd-update(8) and freebsd-update.conf(5) man pages. Alas, I don't grok it, yet. - Is the intent that I can make my own server? Or is it "just" a convenient way to receive binary upgrades for releases? (I put the quotes there because I think it is not a small feat.) - If I'm supposed to be able to make my own server, how to put stuff there? - What does it do with config files during the upgrade? (Actually, I think for me it would be sufficient for the thing to install default config files -- I've got cfengine to handle the rest...) - Can it upgrade from one version to another, or is it for security fixes only? Regardless of the answers, however, I can already see that it will help us tremendously: we just install a release, then let freebsd-update handle the rest for the base system. And for the ports, we think of another way, such as the "portupgrade -avRPP" command that I mentioned before. Now the only thing missing is my ability to convince them ;-) Kai