From owner-freebsd-current Wed Dec 3 09:19:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA26079 for current-outgoing; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:19:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA26051; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:18:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03289; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:18:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199712031718.JAA03289@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "John S. Dyson" cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Greg Lehey , FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: 3.0 -release ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Dec 1997 12:02:40 GMT." <34854A60.829AB149@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 09:18:31 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I believe that it is *critical* that we don't set up any false > hopes, and extolling the virtues of half baked code is something > to avoid. Some of my code has been in that category, and I hope > that we have learned from those mistakes. It is okay, for example, > given the state of the code, for us to say that SMP works in -current. > That warns the users of the beta or even incomplete nature of the > implementation. More and more, we are in the position of FreeBSD's > performance and quality being "paraphrased: better than expected", > but of course not perfect. I hope that we stay in that position. > > Perhaps we are getting more conservative, but that is probably > natural given the project's maturing. One thing for sure, if we > start becoming overly conservative and stagnent, I will be one to > try to push things along. > > I tend to agree with the position that we have more time to go before > 3.0 is ready... Those users who really really want SMP, kernel > threads, AIO or whatever fancy new feature that is going into > -current will have to realize that the code is pre-release and > immature, and tracking the code will require more effort than code > that is released and stabilized. I am not asking to set up any false hopes rather for a target date or as some has said a target season to ensure that the project stays focus and perhaps if someone comes up with a list of known problems or goals you *may* actually get help --- that is if the project needs it. Best Regards, Amancio