Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 17:25:28 +0300 From: Lev Serebryakov <lev@FreeBSD.org> To: Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org>, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> Cc: FreeBSD Developers <developers@freebsd.org>, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Aggressive ports removal Message-ID: <ebf99712-b9f6-1438-320d-9f25050f3b8a@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <f9cd7c4d-9477-89ab-f054-75b9bf9ca077@freebsd.org> References: <202008291154.07TBsr7L086597@repo.freebsd.org> <FC66C7DA-2A0D-43E7-B29C-E4C94C1973BA@freebsd.org> <f56625f8-1d63-515c-93af-909a4e47e65d@freebsd.org> <9a4583d9-097e-d0ba-4959-5c4d7b96b611@freebsd.org> <20200829232707.GC46173@eureka.lemis.com> <f9cd7c4d-9477-89ab-f054-75b9bf9ca077@freebsd.org>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --XKGBaeSHJygJcraFqtFAg4k3MxXFk4tBs Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="aV4iVmHneUOgjEKWdjv6YrUc7KKlpLo70" --aV4iVmHneUOgjEKWdjv6YrUc7KKlpLo70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30.08.2020 11:28, Niclas Zeising wrote: >> Exactly.=C2=A0 Another case in point: x11/xtset.=C2=A0 Maintenance sto= pped in >> 1993, 11 days after the FreeBSD project came into existence.=C2=A0 It = works >> fine, and I find it very useful.=C2=A0 If at some time in the future i= t >> should no longer work with the latest and greatest iteration of the C >> programming language or ports structure, that shouldn't be a reason to= >> discard it. >=20 > Then it is very easy.=C2=A0 If it is useful to you, adopt it as maintai= ner, then you will get a notification if it fails to build, and you can f= ix the issue(s) It is not "very easy". What if port which is like `x11/xtset` is used by 100 users and 0 develo= pers/committers? What should these 100 users (not programmers by any means) do when next = `pkg upgrade` will try to delete this package? `-fcommon/-fno-common` and nay other infrastructure/compiler changes ARE= NOT user-visible problems, and MUST NOT be transferred to users. Unpatched security vulnerabilities ARE user-visible problems. Our develo= pers' dances around C/C++ standards and other hacker toys ARE NOT. --=20 // Lev Serebryakov --aV4iVmHneUOgjEKWdjv6YrUc7KKlpLo70-- --XKGBaeSHJygJcraFqtFAg4k3MxXFk4tBs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEE+W0coLX0MYtnSzMK6rA8WL/cR48FAl9NCF5fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEY5 NkQxQ0EwQjVGNDMxOEI2NzRCMzMwQUVBQjAzQzU4QkZEQzQ3OEYACgkQ6rA8WL/c R48eyg/9FX3HCMKHNbDN2qIOrkRKYnaJFKz7Ilbh39iGmHEyVTCWa2wm+7S7ma+8 dIIhkw9GZu8d8B6633L/j1kQLZbtp5clvT1Ct+goV6STdI47quSWEdKO9msy8HzR 6ryGZzx4/PqHOkZQh8UBrKPFX3OYazYppXki9jrKT9NIGDa38Q4YyI4zP3YEyIAT cBF1S14haTGvOPP0TE2Ie3srlwgb7Fc0RaIx5JOcnNZ0ySZ+nOstKvHCdX5tyeLg r4JNlzny3yQEnS+wMQSBNdbGg1ALfA/d4UDmCI5096YNvJNbomfKoVERuAE/VD1R efoyxj2b+36Y0KSe1eBnj5mM9MP+xqtosfR+VrejVqRQlWRRi+hl8Ob1nC5eXWFj daH6RUbwROlrZU1OcohEtRLAy571aCBM3gRGBgxLu+umfN8InXE7R4RVuZpdXuyw 19b0MO9WuGdtKp370MDBEU1t6UE+3GTyhyjwryzRz7W0brprqbo78YpcwG74o0p9 4Q3DSWGOjxQJFN0yv2SICdYxrP7xHFPAMEh3I4t7lRsN0vGDSPQIjEp6RvCgOsct EEDuG3iwG9ZPvCSMVtRU/1AbMLf1qZhZZbRxVg92Ctkk6tup470op+ZwNveqCv4a WrN9MylClaLYOfjvzv2XhJ2ojN9No/twKMeCqfOdk+EBsPDlC8E= =8+H/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XKGBaeSHJygJcraFqtFAg4k3MxXFk4tBs--
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