From nobody Thu Dec 29 09:48:38 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NjNrB5XHBz2kp8h for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 09:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johannes-maria@t-online.de) Received: from mailout03.t-online.de (mailout03.t-online.de [194.25.134.81]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NjNrB38vJz3LnN for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 09:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johannes-maria@t-online.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from fwd78.dcpf.telekom.de (fwd78.aul.t-online.de [10.223.144.104]) by mailout03.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id BA44C21E4B; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 10:48:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from t-online.de ([194.140.112.192]) by fwd78.t-online.de with (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) esmtp id 1pApWg-3FuISW0; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 10:48:39 +0100 Received: by t-online.de (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) johannes-maria@t-online.de; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 10:48:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 10:48:38 +0100 From: Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: Ian Smith Subject: Re: Unable to boot from internal hard disks on new PC Message-ID: <20221229094838.GA2343@localhost.org> References: <45e305f7a1193cd6eac03dd0a1499e638c26ceda.camel@riseup.net> <20221227124617.GB11926@localhost.org> <20221227140807.GE11926@localhost.org> <5f3b33a4dc7f71cbcfe04e919cc7502cb6bca59a.camel@riseup.net> <20221227160752.GF11926@localhost.org> <5c6033d260d2b26462e7b36fcd12c49f73a98bf0.camel@riseup.net> <20221228102621.GA4946@localhost.org> <20221228115257.GE4946@localhost.org> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) X-TOI-EXPURGATEID: 150726::1672307319-6AFFD9DD-DA1746E1/0/0 CLEAN NORMAL X-TOI-MSGID: 8a59be36-86e9-4b60-869f-22f746292ca2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NjNrB38vJz3LnN X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3320, ipnet:194.25.0.0/16, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hello, On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 06:31:28AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > Hi, just a couple of thoughts from left field. > I've avoided UEFI and Secure Boot and come from another era, but > FWIW I'll cherrypick a bit .. > > On 28 December 2022 10:52:57 pm AEDT, Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach wrote: > [..] > > > Secure Boot Mode Custom > > Didn't you say you'd disabled that? What does 'Custom' come to? yes, I did. Otherwise I could not have booted the 13.1 USB stick. First I looked for every line with the words Secure Boot and changed to another value; there were only two values, Standard and Custom. But this didn't help, still the PC tried a Secure Boot and failed. I asked the supplier how to get rid of this Secure Boot. His answer: disable CSM Support, then there will appear the item Secure Boot (which it did and could not by found earlier) and then I should choose Enabled for Secure Boot and Custom in Secure Boot Mode. Before asking the supplier of the PC I looked for Secure Boot in the internet, found only that I should choose Other OS in the item 'Windows 10 Features'; so did this also. And then I could boot at least from extern USB Stick. > > SATA Controller(s) Enabled > > > In 'Plug in Devices Info' I found the disks: > > PCIE Slot Info > > PCIEX16: N/A > > PCIEX1_1: N/A > > PCIEX1_3: N/A > > PCIEX1_4: PCIe 3.0x2 @ 3.0x1 > > PCIEX1_5: PCIe 3.0x2 @ 3.0x1 > > Is that 2 pairs of disks on 2 controllers, or what? yes, they are for removable 2.5" disks; slots still empty (https://www.icydock.de/goods.php?id=227). > > > M2 Slot Info > > M2A: WD_BLACK SN770 500GB NVMe 4.0x4 @ 4.0x4 > > M2P: N/A > > Main thing I've wondered: maybe it's expecting to boot off that, > at least preferably? Yes; I wanted to do this later, first install on a SATA disk (as in my old PC) and then learn something about NVMe (of which I've not heard before). [Ralf sent me a link I wanted to look at today an then try to install 13.1 on that SSD; hat not yet the time but I'll try.] > Have you considered removing it to see if it then sees the SCSI disks? Not yet; hadn't this idea and not sure I know how. > > Boot > > ---- > > > > Boot Configuration > > Bootup NumLock State Off > > CFG Clock Disabled > > Security Option Setup > > Full Screen Logo Show Enabled > > > > Boot Option Priorities > > #1 UEFI: HTTP IPv4 Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller > > #2 UEFI: PXE IPv4 Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller > > #3 UEFI: HTTP IPv6 Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller > > #4 UEFI: PXE IPv6 Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller > > That seems to only cater for net booting. How did you get it to > boot from the USB installer? This was the state when all USB sticks were detached. [Ralf had asked: 'Did you click each sub menu of all BIOS menus, while all USB sticks were detached?'. So that's what I did here; there's no disk; with the USB sticks attached they are both here and bootable.] I don't boot over the net; should I delete these four entries with efibootmgr? [I've already disabled them, so now this list contains only entries from USB sticks.] > > Fast Boot Enabled > > Maybe a slower boot might show more, or for longer, about what > it's doing, or trying to do? The other options are 'Ultra Fast' and 'Disable Link' (whatever that means). I didn't change the default. > > SATA Support All SATA > > Devices > > VGA Support Auto > > USB Support Full Initial > > PS2 Devices Support Enabled > > [..] > > > Windows 10 Features Other OS > > SCM Support Disabled > > What's that about? sorry, s/SCM/CSM/ That was what I should choose to get rid of the problems with Secure Boot (see above). For this (Secure Boot) I've got some help from the supplier but not for the problem with booting from the internal disks. Or seeing the disks in Bios. They think that's not their problem. But they proposed to Enable CSM Support again. But then Save&Exit just let the screen goes blank and I hat to remove the battery for some time to reset the Bios. > > * Secure Boot > > Preferred Operating Mode Auto The Options for Preferred Operating Mode are Auto, Easy Mode and Advanced Mode (with a note saying that Auto means: Bios remembers which mode you exited last time; no info to the other Modes). Secure Boot opens a sub menu with the values: Secure Boot Disabled Secure Boot Mode Custom and Keys that allow booting. > Again I wonder what that means, if not disabled? > > > What should I do with this Bios to be able to boot from > > the internal disks? > > Good luck, though you shouldn't need luck with that sort of kit ... that's what I thought and hoped for (still hope finding a solution). Best regards, Johannes-Maria