From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 30 11:11:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C19A16A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:11:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (duey.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F013543D39 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:11:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1377D1FE28; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:11:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (duey.wolves.k12.mo.us [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 96021-01-39; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:11:50 -0600 (CST) Received: by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 070901FE1F; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:11:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051BA1A928; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:11:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:11:49 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: John Von Essen In-Reply-To: <20040330101519.R2711@beck.quonix.net> Message-ID: <20040330122431.P94083@duey.wolves.k12.mo.us> References: <002f01c4165c$a0c0d1d0$6f01a8c0@miter.local> <40697A82.2070402@sitetronics.com> <20040330101519.R2711@beck.quonix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at wolves.k12.mo.us cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Website X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:11:52 -0000 On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, John Von Essen wrote: > And... It doesn't help when they go to freebsd.org. It makes FreeBSD > seem NON-enterprise. Personally, i think the site is fine, but Im a > tech, not a CTO. Maybe, freebsd.com can be redesigned have a > suse.com or redhat.com look-n-feel, and freebsd.org can retain - the > developer community look-n-feel. Having two different web sites is unnecessary work. It is entirely possible to have a tech-friendly site that looks good enough to visually impress the CEO/CTO/etc. What techie people such as myself care about is the availability of and how easy it is to find the technical information we've come to the site looking for: documentation, FAQs, Knowledge Base, software downloads/patches, and so on... The FreeBSD site already does this fairly well except for the lack of a decent search engine. I will sometimes judge a product based on the quality of the technical information available for it on the official website. If the web site is devoid of any useful information, no matter how good it looks I'm likely to brush it off and go look for something else. If I can find what I want _and_ the site looks spiffy at the same time, that's extra brownie points and makes the product that much more impressive in my eyes. Take m0n0wall (http://m0n0.ch/wall) for example. I was impressed when I saw the non-typical (for open source), clean and professional web page that told me everything I wanted to know about what it is, what it does, what they've been doing lately, etc., and then blown away by the product itself. It's no SuSE or RedHat site, but its good in its own way. That's a win-win scenario in my book. :-) That said, the FreeBSD website really isn't that bad. It could stand a facelift now and then to keep things buzzing, but don't sacrifice its usability. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon(at)wolves.k12.mo.us FreeBSD: The fastest, most open, and most stable OS on the planet - Available for IA32, IA64, AMD64, PC98, Alpha, and UltraSPARC architectures - PowerPC, ARM, MIPS, and S/390 under development - http://www.freebsd.org Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon?