From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 7 4:22:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03AD37B406 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 04:22:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lakemtao04.cox.net (lakemtao04.cox.net [68.1.17.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9EA43E4A for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 04:22:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ataraxia@cox.net) Received: from arkadia.nv.cox.net ([68.98.181.29]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20021107122211.IGBP1315.lakemtao04.cox.net@arkadia.nv.cox.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:22:11 -0500 Received: from arkadia.nv.cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arkadia.nv.cox.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gA7Bxm0i009965; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:59:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ataraxia@arkadia.nv.cox.net) Received: (from ataraxia@localhost) by arkadia.nv.cox.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gA7Bxmhm009964; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:59:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ataraxia) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:59:48 -0500 (EST) From: Ray Kohler Message-Id: <200211071159.gA7Bxmhm009964@arkadia.nv.cox.net> To: ataraxia@cox.net, listsub@401.cx Subject: Re: sendmail without (real) hostname? Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3DCA182D.9020500@401.cx> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From listsub@401.cx Thu Nov 7 02:45:04 2002 > Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 08:37:17 +0100 > From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" > To: Ray Kohler > CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: sendmail without (real) hostname? > > Ray Kohler wrote: > > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > >> On 2002-11-06 20:47, Ray Kohler wrote: > >> > >> Funny. All ISPs that have a tiny sort of sense and respect for their > >> users that have dynamically allocated IP addresses will usually > >> provide at least one mail relay. If not for any other reason, to let > >> them send email to servers that refuse all messages from hosts whose > >> forward and reverse DNS lookups fail (a lot of the servers use this as > >> a form of antispam measure). > > > > > > > > It's a `no servers allowed' ISP. > > > > - @ > > > > And if you wanted to send mail from a regular mailclient, like > Outlook Express, would they allow that? > If they do, they must still provide you with a server that relays > your email. > > -- > R > > > > Outlook sets the `from:' part of the envelope to something valid, whereas sendmail (before this fix) was honest about it and was denied at that point. - @ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message