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Date:      Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:51:53 -0700 (PDT)
From:      John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>
To:        mobile@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: "broadcast ping" message
Message-ID:  <200304161851.h3GIprKO080872@strings.polstra.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030416114002.K46401-100000@moo.sysabend.org>
References:  <20030416114002.K46401-100000@moo.sysabend.org>

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In article <20030416114002.K46401-100000@moo.sysabend.org>,
Jamie Bowden  <ragnar@sysabend.org> wrote:
> > > Then submit a draft for a superceding RFC, don't ignore it just because
> > > it's inconvenient.  That's a Microsoft attitude.
> > Take it up with the NSP folks.  I've not written standards stuff, and this
> > is now a
> > Best Current Practices.  I've had my share of DDoS's from broadcast pings.
> >
> > It's NOT JUST ME, it's the ENTIRE ISP Community.
> 
> All the world is not an ISP.  Having worked in that industry in the past,
> I understand why they do things, but changing the default behaviour to
> violate RFCs is not what I consider a good thing.  The option to turn it
> is great for those who want or need it.
> 
> Using Cisco as an example doesn't bolster your argument, BTW, they've done
> their share of boneheaded things in the past as well.
> 
> If the world is a better place for an updated standard, then fix the
> standard, don't ignore it.  This isn't directed at you personally Larry,
> it's just a general rant.

Oh, drop it!  Security fixes don't wait on standards.  You've got a
knob to make it do what you want -- so use it.  Please stop the
whining or at least remove me from the cc list.

John
-- 
  John Polstra
  John D. Polstra & Co., Inc.                        Seattle, Washington USA
  "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence."  -- Chögyam Trungpa



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