Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:28:00 -0500 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com>, arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing CVS from HEAD Message-ID: <7470815C-E215-4A57-90AB-773C2B74E2DA@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <504D6EE8.5010604@FreeBSD.org> References: <CAF6rxgnZGjzm230sZXVXxmE7wPowF_BZqbwRjdvz8oV-03gS=A@mail.gmail.com> <20120908234659.GA10489@server.rulingia.com> <CAF6rxg=5_jpKVOdnggT1FtJcL6C0odvfAG8CuWCtVQmir-5L4g@mail.gmail.com> <42D7F0F3-46EC-484A-8665-626AD5D0404E@bsdimp.com> <504D2BE4.6030007@FreeBSD.org> <59550073-A4DE-4152-B406-DFC47AF991DC@bsdimp.com> <504D6EE8.5010604@FreeBSD.org>
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On Sep 9, 2012, at 11:39 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 9/9/2012 9:01 PM, Warner Losh wrote: >>=20 >> On Sep 9, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >>> We have a long way to go until 10-RELEASE, and a long uptake cycle = after >>> that. By the time even a significant percentage of our users are >>> actually using 10.something the momentum will have shifted entirely = to >>> SVN. ... and anyone using 10 who needs CVS can install it from = ports. >>=20 >> I'll point out that "what things should be like at 10.0" is difficult = to predict today. Saying the project will be a particular way weakens = the argument given the project's glorious history on such = pronouncements... It is a great goal, but I'd rather see more concrete = progress towards the goal before pulling the trigger. >=20 > Oddly, the opposite argument was put forth for removing sysinstall in > HEAD when there was no replacement available for the post-install > features of sysinstall. The fact that it got removed anyway helped = spur > action regarding its replacement. And we've had plenty of friction in that transition, so it would seem = the evidence supports the go a little more slowly approach. But, = sysinstall is kinda a special case, so I don't think either side can = draw much useful inference from that debate. > The balls are already rolling towards getting SVN mirrors in place, = and > anyone who still needs CVS years from now can install it from ports. True. And delaying a bit until things are more jelled won't hurt = anything either. If all goes according to plan, this will be in a few = months. If it doesn't, then we have a fallback... Warner
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