From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 3 15:29:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3804237B410; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.gnf.org (ns1.gnf.org [63.196.132.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2513443FCB; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:29:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gtetlow@gnf.org) Received: from EXCHCLUSTER01.lj.gnf.org (exch02.lj.gnf.org [172.25.10.20]) by ns1.gnf.org (8.12.6p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h33NTHZu052641; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:29:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gtetlow@gnf.org) Received: from roark.gnf.org ([172.25.24.15]) by EXCHCLUSTER01.lj.gnf.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:29:19 -0800 Received: from roark.gnf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roark.gnf.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h33NTINB086304; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:29:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gtetlow@gnf.org) Received: (from gtetlow@localhost) by roark.gnf.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h33NTDkl086303; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:29:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:29:13 -0800 From: Gordon Tetlow To: Darren Reed Message-ID: <20030403232913.GU69100@roark.gnf.org> References: <20030402194821.C33692A8A5@canning.wemm.org> <200304031312.XAA13954@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iiZKCn1f/U0ES2iY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200304031312.XAA13954@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2003 23:29:19.0860 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9C6EB40:01C2FA38] cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: "Matthew N. Dodd" cc: Peter Wemm cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: Alexander Leidinger cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Proposal regarding the RFC 3514 handling X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 23:29:21 -0000 --iiZKCn1f/U0ES2iY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:12:39PM +1000, Darren Reed wrote: > In some email I received from Peter Wemm, sie wrote: > [...] > > On the other hand, we have so much cruft in the ip input/output code pa= ths > > (2 or 3 different packet filter hooks etc), this is tiny by comparison. >=20 > Now that April 1 is far behind, I'll mention that I've been looking > at ways to amalgamate the mechanisms used by ipfw/ipfilter to address > this problem. Without being insulting, my 5 second grab on this is > that ipfw has grown like a tumour inside the ip stack with bits and > pieces hooked in here and there and everywhere (exageration.) That > is to say I think should be and can be better than they are. Not to mention that the last time I tried to build a kernel without INET, all the errors seemed to be a result of ipfw (iirc, this was a long time ago, it might be fixed now). -gordon --iiZKCn1f/U0ES2iY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+jMPJRu2t9DV9ZfsRAnTFAKDLKX5/m4gKYaaTGyTW5QVkO2bTgwCeLdpK VymG9dpsGro7UXlWAaECVr8= =r5IJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iiZKCn1f/U0ES2iY--