From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 14 23:40:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EB81065678; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:40:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2EF8FC12; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mAENafEq007887; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:36:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mAENaeCC007886; Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:36:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:36:40 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20081114233640.GA7755@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <491D59D3.8080809@spansurf.com> <20081114203914.W14337@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <491DDD56.1040001@ccstores.com> <20081114225626.GA56663@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081114225626.GA56663@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: re changing from vista X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:40:47 -0000 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 02:56:26PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:19:34PM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote: > > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>> please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from > >>> windows vista > >>> > >>> but i cannot understand which system to use > >> > >> maybe windows XP? > >> > >>> > >>> i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software > >> > >> simply check it. > > > > unless you think this may be a troll, > > your comments seem a great way to chase away a potential convert to FreeBSD. > > > But why are we interested in "converting" people? That borders on > religious, which an operating system should not be. The OP asked advice on an OS alternative to Vista and asked about FreeBSD. Telling him that FreeBSD is a good choice is not making a religious statement. It is just answering his question in an honest manner. ////jerry > > People should use whatever OS gets the job done for them, be it Windows, > FreeBSD, Linux, OS X, Solaris, DOS, whatever. The OP's question is > vague in a sincere way; users who want to move away from an OS often > hope there is a simple answer, when in fact there isn't. > > My point is that focusing on "converting" someone, I feel, is the wrong > way to go about showing the world the operating system is worth using. > To me, it's just just another manipulative form of marketing; and I > don't know about you, but marketing doesn't sway me when it comes to > most things (*especially* computing-oriented things). Marketing often > turns people off to things, rather than on. > > I'm not saying "we don't need new users" -- I'm saying: if we took half > the energy used "converting" people and applied it to fixing bugs and > improving FreeBSD, there wouldn't be a need to "convert". "Build it > (and secure/stabilise it) and they will come". > > I guess I just see things in a different light than most. > > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"