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Yeah, but then according to Murphy, your generator will blow up...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitch Collinsworth" <mitch@ccmr.cornell.edu>
To: "Dave" <mudman@metafocus.net>
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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: POP daemon


>
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Dave wrote:
>
> > What I mean by good is 'secure as possible' (is there really such thing
as
> > being totally secure / invulnerable?)
>
> Yes.  It's called "not connected to the network, in a bomb-shelter,
> with an emergency generator, with plenty of fuel".
>
> -Mitch
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