From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 10 14:47:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08EC16A41F for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:47:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CB043D48 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:47:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so399523nzo for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:47:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gBCF4Iegg3zcLqOdCYo6jqh70dFLKpDAEHvfKCr3QfZH5SPlc4ziz4aeq+Ixx5CUvEidOfdPATS4CR5UB7GvLUZEAHMhA9aeOoW/webh6M7H/bSy/8ReKX+uOMEmLjbe7cl7oYW37/AqO9XySiO7Gkq3sL5x9GhQ9tATl/DA1Ag= Received: by 10.37.15.74 with SMTP id s74mr569936nzi; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:47:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.20.33 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:47:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:47:32 +0300 From: "Andrew P." To: Colin Percival In-Reply-To: <43725078.6000303@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200511091224.13143.kirk@strauser.com> <200511091044.04253.kstewart@owt.com> <200511091313.50741.kirk@strauser.com> <43725078.6000303@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup vs. portsnap (was Re: cvsup problem) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:47:34 -0000 On 11/9/05, Colin Percival wrote: > Kirk Strauser wrote: > > On Wednesday 09 November 2005 12:44, Kent Stewart wrote: > >>If you aren't going to rebuild everything, every time you cvsup, don't = do > >>it. > > > > Out of curiosity, are 10 small cvsup sessions worse than 1 session with= 10 > > times the changes? > > Yes. Each time you run CVSup, it transmits a list of all the files in th= e > tree; if your ports tree is almost up-to-date already, then this "overhea= d" > cost is in fact the largest contributor to the bandwidth used. This prob= lem > does not occur with portsnap to any significant extent; updating once an = hour > uses less than 1% extra bandwidth compared to updating every day. > > > Anyway, I've fallen in love with portsnap. Is there any reason in the = world > > why a normal user (eg one that doesn't need to fetch a version of ports > > from a specific date or tag) shouldn't completely switch to portsnap to= day? > > The other common reason for being unable to use portsnap is if a user has= made > their own personal changes to a port (e.g., an added patch). Portsnap wi= ll > remove such changes the next time the port is updated, while cvs will att= empt > to merge the modifications. > > Colin Percival > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > There are a couple more points against portsnap: - it lags behind by a few hours. - setting up a mirror is still undocumented Both issues are purely technical, and hopefully will be dealt with soon.