From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 1 06:08:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5534016A4B3 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 06:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhodium.liacs.nl (rhodium.liacs.nl [132.229.131.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F6E43FBF for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 06:08:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoenig@liwest.at) Received: from TOSH (wlan102.liacs.nl [132.229.137.102]) h91C0WbQ016709 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:00:33 +0200 From: "Florian Hoenig" To: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:00:30 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c38813$9fcd1680$6689e584@TOSH> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3F7A61FD.32416.C1F434E@localhost> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: RE: Laptops and PC-Cards (WAS: Toshiba P20-S303) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 13:08:25 -0000 Hey! The thing is, that it doesn't boot with any of the kernels available in = the boot menu of the 5.x installation isos. Not even with safe mode, which doesn't seem to turn off pccard stuff because it locks at the same = thing. Any other suggestions on this problem? Regards, -flo -----Original Message----- From: Daniel [mailto:freebsd@argentproductions.com]=20 Sent: Mittwoch, 01. Oktober 2003 11:11 To: Florian Hoenig; freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Laptops and PC-Cards (WAS: Toshiba P20-S303) Sorry for the top-post but I've been seeing a few people say they've had install issues and=20 whatnot with PC-Card controllers and incompatibilities and all... and a = lot of mis-information=20 and old web pages out there too... so I thought I'd insert a little = generic information I came=20 across while doing my own installs.=20 What I've found (I have a ThinkPad) is that FreeBSD 5.1 *should*, given = the right kernel=20 parameters and all, work very well for most people. To get around the kernel boot hang=20 during the install, simply choose the "safe mode" boot option, which disables all PC-Card=20 things for the install portion. For my model and possibly many others (those using the Intel=20 or IBM chipsets) you then need to build a custom kernel containing the = pcic device and=20 excluding the cbb device. Obviously, those of you with chips supported = by cbb should=20 probably use that instead. ;-) There are a number of websites (and = emails on this list) with=20 info on some kernel parameters to tune if needed, as well. But for the most part, the issues I've been seeing -- "5.x won't work on = my laptop" / "4.x and=20 5.x hang during boot probing" / "my typical and usually supported cards aren't detected=20 properly" -- 5.1 offers a simple install solution and the most = configurable kernel options of all=20 the releases -- and with oldcard support as well, it goes back to = anything (IIRC) that 4.x=20 supported too. =20 Please correct my gross over-simplification of things, but this boot = feature certainly helped=20 me install 5.1 (and I'd way rather have 5 than 4 on a laptop) and it = looks like it might help a=20 few others to not be afraid of the transition. :) However, if you still want to stick with 4.x on your laptop, you'll have = to go other routes (e.g.=20 boot option setting or using a custom bootdisk or something. I can't = help you there, as I've=20 got 5 on mine.=20 Peace to all, -- D <>< > Hey! I'd like to report this problem too, which apperantly some other=20 > models seem to have to, when trying to boot any of the kernels that=20 > are included on the install CDs (tried everything from 4.5 and above). >=20 > pci2: at device 2.0 (no drive attached) > cbb0: at device 4.0 on pci2 > pcib2: device cbb0 requested decoded memory range 0x2000000-0xc20fffff >=20 > It freezes here. In the other posting there was the hint to change the = > pnp option in the bios. The p20-s303 doesnt have that option. I cant=20 > hardly change anything lowlevel in the bios. > Any other workaround? Maybe build a install disk with a kernel that doesn't > include pccard? >=20 > Thanks and kind regards, >=20 > Florian Hoenig >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20