From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 6 11:56:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54F4F37B71B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:56:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 38821 invoked by uid 100); 6 Mar 2001 19:56:31 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15013.16623.436265.368429@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:56:31 -0600 To: Brett Glass Cc: Rahul Siddharthan , "Victor R. Cardona" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306122244.04477f00@localhost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306092612.00b79f00@localhost> <20010305134937.K80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305114235.046da630@localhost> <20010305200017.D80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305123951.04604b20@localhost> <20010305205030.G80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305125259.00cfdae0@localhost> <20010305142108.A17269@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306011342.045fb360@localhost> <20010306081025.A22143@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306122244.04477f00@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass types: > At 09:46 AM 3/6/2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > Also untrue. I don't "hate" Richard Stallman, though I do believe > that what he is doing is unethical. It is Stallman who is filled > with hatred -- the result of the trauma documented so well in > Steven Levy's book "Hackers" and in Stallman's own writings -- > and is causing much harm. I'm speaking out against that hatred > and malice. > > I cannot understand why you are attacking me for doing so. The > only motivations I can imagine are (a) that you share Stallman's > spite and hatred; (b) that you've been taken in by the propaganda > he has spread to further his agenda; or (c) you think you have > something to gain within the social group of this mailing list > by attacking me. Brett, Resorting to mud-slinging just weakens your argument. It makes people think that you've run out of support for your position, and have to resort to attacking the people instead of their position. While trying to understand other peoples motivations is generally a good idea, discussing them - especially in such negative terms - isn't. If that's the best you can do, ask. That others started by slinging mud at you is no excuse - respond by calling them on it, not by attacking in kind. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message