From owner-svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Wed Mar 8 12:46:37 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EF1D02994; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 12:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (mx3.absolight.net [IPv6:2a01:678:2:100::25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plouf.absolight.net", Issuer "CAcert Class 3 Root" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2D431C0F; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 12:46:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E64BDCAC; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 13:46:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from ogg.in.absolight.net (ogg.in.absolight.net [79.143.241.239]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6172EBDC91; Wed, 8 Mar 2017 13:46:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: svn commit: r435576 - head/devel/pkgconf To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=c3=b8rgrav?= References: <201703070103.v2713JtB059883@repo.freebsd.org> <86varkow3d.fsf@desk.des.no> <18c36943-a57e-b785-674b-f6522b1dce78@FreeBSD.org> Cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org From: Mathieu Arnold Organization: Absolight / The FreeBSD Foundation Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 13:46:34 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <18c36943-a57e-b785-674b-f6522b1dce78@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Sxds0uMXB1fq6qhs4tE7GwAtfbBDLbD9x" X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2017 12:46:37 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Sxds0uMXB1fq6qhs4tE7GwAtfbBDLbD9x Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="J9UrJE8rLjs5O1JTm2kfXKSPF2hKNPpbf"; protected-headers="v1" From: Mathieu Arnold To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=c3=b8rgrav?= Cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r435576 - head/devel/pkgconf References: <201703070103.v2713JtB059883@repo.freebsd.org> <86varkow3d.fsf@desk.des.no> <18c36943-a57e-b785-674b-f6522b1dce78@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <18c36943-a57e-b785-674b-f6522b1dce78@FreeBSD.org> --J9UrJE8rLjs5O1JTm2kfXKSPF2hKNPpbf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resending, thunderbird managed to mangle everything up. Le 08/03/2017 =C3=A0 12:18, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav a =C3=A9crit : > Mathieu Arnold writes: >> So, before changing this policy, I am going to ask you, as portmgr, to= >> please back the change out. > Why do I have the feeling that you're doing this purely out of spite? > Because as it currently stands (after your followup commit), the patch > has no effect on ports, but greatly facilitates life for developers. Well, I did not write this out of spite, I waited a long while before ask= ing this, talking with my fellows portmgr, and they feel the same way as = I do. > I think you're forgetting that pkgconf does not exist solely for the us= e > of the ports tree, but also for the use of developers who write softwar= e > on FreeBSD. Your commit message said : "This renders 82.6% of Mk/Uses/pathfix.mk obso= lete." Which is the policy change we are against because it was not discu= ssed first. I have nothing against making the life of developers easier, but this is = not the message your commit was conveying. At all. And not at all what Ti= jl and you talked about afterwards. Now, instead of plainly reverting your commit, what you could do is add a= non default option to pkgconf adding lib/pkgconfig to the search path. B= ut it must be off by default. But you have to[1] do the first one or the = second possibility I gave you. 1: rule 5 of https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/rul= es.html --=20 Mathieu Arnold --J9UrJE8rLjs5O1JTm2kfXKSPF2hKNPpbf-- --Sxds0uMXB1fq6qhs4tE7GwAtfbBDLbD9x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJYv/0rXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQzQUI2OTc4OUQyRUQxMjEwNjQ0MEJBNUIz QTQ1MTZGMzUxODNDRTQ4AAoJEDpFFvNRg85Ih/YP/38V6TOZJuqYTXDWR9aBUUDv qPKnfhr/zgDl5kbcqgLyqe1tU+I0G+d2KlsDw/nfM5Qw2bdWKtNhbD5xro40njel UYuWw+FPtdvBkgOA7j4/Hmx13rXV7/j6Lb0K52GhcLdYnvlqi+MdX0P4ohHpaBLM UAc0SBpJuUwA1//5LAbE5DlLKEE/4tRAFYIt6yX2hkAg06l1ccynCI+IbWqFHTKR fpuM4CQwm5rMS/rT5GoYZaAUB4daFgLx5O9LmgdO5ot1GiFt6SrAQ4ZGnAYTKLiY HFQY7xG1xqni+3AUE6hT395Ow1GiAmpHQgsXhA7AtpNVqEDhYUdoCeoXepJUCK+j HB0AK+ji+PQBfGIm8cTrOAzBoLxTEAjBk0l2qEKgsKjUlR/ESu90NLRf4opxMBDB NtngZMD/Vzbcn+dzw/W/uktUxdMafzZxgbtcR2vyy+0Ynt0xht9odIVVCALSCKaE CUwjtsNadiypJwClyL2H0SIsFYLdyfjGx/gEcX4UYT6keJxmbsX1rXFzULBVhXjE wJEovllH1U6bYrtGgiRwd/c1Ukf2o+hBD7990h+KNZH4Q1PmU9a5EbODsUOZ+/ZG 1s0274A5hia6q2ksV0I44mB8Gk415XDT9bEhiJigw3y1EDN1XORowf84vT3xkLaA lYnwbFKZ0+t7PSd/UctU =QMBe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sxds0uMXB1fq6qhs4tE7GwAtfbBDLbD9x--