From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 20:34:02 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFBCE27856C for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:34:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lj1-x232.google.com (mail-lj1-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::232]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48zV955zrtz4Wxr for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lj1-x232.google.com with SMTP id 142so3097981ljj.7 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:34:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=IcTPpSDSccGPGcRDdYJTqhX5ekvFxHvPr1xLPCrfWN4=; b=npPFanfi5tbiLkRM93p10VBHz/SqyRTbDrR9wEngXi1UIEVIZR0v0R1b0M8zMVsRrs ay41243rWZxZhYoTCqlTVqCcqpQRSbjaE1RkofRtxzrL3UewtEXQhdz6R1zIyNuWlxmh 2ZYSGdLZYmr95YLuZg9VhxuqxRPMYpJxGsd81ukrF+HqD7pD2cr3tx7io6y0pUBC879c pZHxU8mb2FVmaMhO4MTqSkAFzNxoJPa+FtiY9yZ4bcgiW6fZsp9NcJTOxDHgy7z3891p zZtNC1mSvwyA6VAS1T/ahf4iyBOtIq9ZUj4P4D42cKlacGBm07XMLsw5UCaQWRZhjvA7 o1lA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=IcTPpSDSccGPGcRDdYJTqhX5ekvFxHvPr1xLPCrfWN4=; b=GMbWfjfyn+rhnfIRNil8L9R2W5mqxiXIiCBenjlkcGu/+bnSBhMYHjvSeYCry1Y2II abS4+f9dei1iToHNRSG8pgr9WcYJN0zZG8V3O9hmHeTRvZg1lOlVbTnN6/6Ca/rvePR5 eVgFOo94dQJBoZYQz1lAMec4BNYzrgiKpeTtkrhd+FiXS5aeW9cDmegkVjjjyxn6bfRt bi0wn2udrsxV0CU1oToQ527B6V7c71fycBNz0U37Up/AiVlE1OoB/UD9+ShpQfF+rHbB CeZ4QAsLRWwyTj+nP1g9ZLgQ0r1LHCHWowlbgIV515G2ExqyP4pv2G/chX+81SQdGmd/ 41NQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PublX6CckkBAK2tUnAahsvqrIKvxR2wORXCrPkczPSoKGp+0CYJ7 xBaQkJzrRNkflyadfYzRLL9IRFO5aw971J5WYxw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJWxEofxW/LukzP1RQoBIKCxjwydGKgJHKGFNmv5GO6l2QuE6Gpzzk42RmMICriSUufF/QXm6/BjBa1vhCreu0= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:800a:: with SMTP id j10mr4003245ljg.65.1586550839171; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:33:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9bc85f04-ed38-4d5a-bec3-551079cdcb2b@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: From: Freddie Cash Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:33:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ars Technica article on FreeBSD new user experience To: Rick Macklem Cc: FreeBSD Hackers X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48zV955zrtz4Wxr X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=npPFanfi; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of fjwcash@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=fjwcash@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.24), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.36), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:34:02 -0000 On Fri., Apr. 10, 2020, 1:23 p.m. Rick Macklem, wrote: > Yes. I'll admit I didn't know FuryBSD existed until now, but if the web > page is > accurate, it would be fine. > > Maybe all that should be done is a reference to it on FreeBSD's web page. > "If you are new to FreeBSD and want a desktop system, you could try..." > FreeNAS should be mentioned as well, for people who want a NAS server, > imho. > > Although I said a new FreeBSD release, I don't see why it needs to be done > by > the FreeBSD project itself, just that I didn't realize others were > currently doing this. > > Maybe someone should ask the author of this article to try FuryBSD? > FuryBSD and GhostBSD were mentioned in the comments, and the author, Jim Salter, is currently in the process of reviewing the latter. He's mentioned he'll take a look at the further sometime in the future. Cheers, Freddie Typos due to smartphone keyboard. >