From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 14 19:44:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16D016A4CE for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 19:44:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp02.syd.iprimus.net.au (smtp02.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.76.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1822043D31 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 19:44:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tim@robbins.dropbear.id.au) Received: from robbins.dropbear.id.au (210.50.40.61) by smtp02.syd.iprimus.net.au (7.0.024) id 402CF870009849FA; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:44:16 +1100 Received: by robbins.dropbear.id.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A923341C4; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:44:49 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:44:49 +1100 From: Tim Robbins To: Julian Elischer Message-ID: <20040315034449.GA26211@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> References: <20040314102936.GA23469@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: doscmd removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 03:44:25 -0000 On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 01:57:35PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Tim Robbins wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 07:29:44AM +0200, John Hay wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 01:26:15PM +1100, Tim Robbins wrote: > > > > I plan to remove doscmd from the base system for the sole reason that it > > > > is no longer useful. Any objections? > > > > > > Why would you want to remove it? It is still very usefull. I use it > > > regularly. The only drawback currently is that the Makefile is set > > > up in such a way that it does not pick up X during a "make world", > > > so after a "make world" you have to build it again to pick up X. > > > Built without X it is less usefull. > > > > Because MS-DOS emulation is not widely useful in 2004, at least not > > enough to be needed in the base system. But I have already said that > > I will now wait until FreeBSD 6 before considering removing doscmd, > > so there's no point arguing over this anymore right now. > > > we can argue about it then.. I doubt there will be much of an argument by that time. AMD and Intel have already decided that V86 mode is not worth the effort to implement fully on their 64-bit CPUs - anyone who wants to use V86 mode (and therefore doscmd) has to run them in 32-bit mode. Tim