From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 1 4:38:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CC337B401 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 04:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fA1CbmP69726; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:37:49 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00b601c162d2$107df930$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <00cd01c162cf$40a82c00$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Tiny starter configuration for FreeBSD Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:38:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > X is certainly required for Netscape and based > on the recent bitching on this list about it I > think that quite a lot of FreeBSD users must > be running it. Netscape or X, you mean? I tried Frontier Technologies' SuperX server on my Windows box. It works well, I guess, but I haven't found much use for it, as the only applications I've seen to try with it are xterm, xeyes, and xclock (and xterm looks just like my SecureCRT SSH session, only worse). It certainly doesn't seem to be worth the $250 or so that they want for the package. I also tried MicroImages' very inexpensive X Server, but it faults as soon as I try to open any kind of session in the X desktop, so that's out. At the moment, I'm not sure that I see the value to having an X Server at all. What are people running under X that makes it so much more useful than a plain tty interface? > yes, Sun has not only paid whatever fee that > TOG is demanding, they have also met TOG's > requirements for branding. (last I checked one > of the requirements was for licensed Java to be > in the UNIX system, thus as you see TOG has > requirements for UNIX branding that cannot be > met by any open source UNIX) I looked at their site, and it has that desperate, highly legalistic look of an organization that is trying very hard to justify its existence (and fees). The UNIX (tm) 95 and UNIX (tm) 98 specifications, in particular, remind me strongly of another large organization that likes to come out with new stuff every few months in order to generate revenue. It might a losing battle, though, as I tend to think of UNIX as a generic term, and I doubt that I'm alone in this. Does anyone remember when Aspirin was a defensible registered trademark of Bayer, or Xerox a registered trademark of the corporation of the same name? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message