From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 18:28: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07F5E37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:28:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 83527 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 02:28:15 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15355.4415.862506.772290@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:28:15 -0600 To: "Andrew C. Hornback" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: home pc use In-Reply-To: <006d01c17232$40b01f60$6600000a@ach.domain> References: <15354.60877.44081.17515@guru.mired.org> <006d01c17232$40b01f60$6600000a@ach.domain> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew C. Hornback types: > > > Long ago, I saw a very simple windowed desktop on DEC UNIX systems, if I > > > remember correctly. Can anyone tell me what sort of > > environment that was? I > > > don't need something fancy, just something that will let me run > > programs that > > > require an X environment. I don't care if I hear lovely chimes when I > > > double-click on icons, and I don't need to have a menu of 3,245 > > desktop themes > > > to choose from. > > > > DEC workstations shipped with the mwm window manager as the default > > window manager. At the time, it was a pretty fancy window > > manager. It's still a lot heavier than anything I'd call "simple". > > That would have been either CDE or Motif, if I remember my history > correctly. Both are still widely respected in the GUI world, but if they > don't float your boat, you've got alternatives. Personally, I love the look > of OpenLook, which is why I run OLVWM on my laptop. I don't know what I'm > going to run on my workstation yet, as I'm still configuring it. mwm is the Motif Window Manager. I left DEC before CDE became popular. I vaguely recall something about KDE being an open-source clone of CDE, but I don't pay much attention to desktop managers. > > As indicated above, the simplest window manager of them all is not > > bothering to run one. The closest thing to that is ratpoison, which is > > in the ports tree. No icons, now frames, no sounds; it's all driven > > from the keyboard. Beyond that there are a number of window managers > > that don't do any icons and only provide simple frames. I prefer lwm > > from that set, but it's certainly not the only choice. > Not sure I could deal with ratpoison, but it doesn't sound like it would be > THAT bad... *grins* If you've ever used screen, you'll have an idea of what using ratpoison is like. The default keybindings for most commands are even lifted from screen. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message