From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 24 19:52:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D2C106566B for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70508FC08 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iagz16 with SMTP id z16so10160055iag.13 for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:52:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mUAMmha2WdqN3OvwW58wPHczhdttCnBMghDx3CEzriw=; b=aFbd4FuPihwh0w0faaVb/+3IeHp3m7is9D1EGCzfCnHK1MnXggjLvWEtODTTqDR+DS sCKUOeCVMNLpANqqhOwKRt9QkUe33zltA8TeYgAxUWWLPVBAFfBw/tJU8UZ99UA54QAG WdZxhTsOmsywPI0gF6ViOjQcZ82asH1m6uyss= Received: by 10.42.145.131 with SMTP id f3mr15538478icv.8.1327434726271; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:52:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.70.15 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:51:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20120122054903.GB12469@lonesome.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:51:35 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9OHErun-4jS4CgdaOnb_efguq0A Message-ID: To: Arnaud Lacombe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:52:07 -0000 On 24 January 2012 18:36, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > Hi, > > "Mark Linimon" pisze: >> We don't have a way to track emails that various users send to individua= l >> maintainers. =A0With a PR open, we have a way to do that. =A0We also tra= ck >> maintainer-timeouts, and these can eventually lead to a maintainer reset= . >> > It is less a problem of having the tools than having the will to do > everything publicly. From experience, committers loves to do all kind > of things privately/secretly. Hm, a bit of a paradox-- I now deny that anything like that happens secretly, then you ask for proof? Chris