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Date:      Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:01:41 +0200
From:      "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>
To:        "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix
Message-ID:  <007001c1da81$34acc9e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
References:  <4.3.2.7.2.20020401153352.02b99760@nospam.lariat.org> <3CA8EB5F.2E91B408@mindspring.com> <1017709221.71119.5.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3CA91382.4E4E2B@mindspring.com> <1017714456.71119.20.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3CA93944.D72D6AB7@mindspring.com> <004501c1da0f$7cd67a80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20020402162112.B26122@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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Greg writes:

> What does that have to do with the statement
> to which it's attached?

My point is that just having the same name doesn't make a product the same
code.  Windows XP has virtually nothing in common with Windows 3.1, even
though they share the same name.  Netscape's browser has changed a lot as
well.

> OK, I'll bite.  How do I compile Galeon (or any
> other free software, for that matter) under
> Microsoft without first finding lots of other
> odds and ends I need?

You don't.  You download Microsoft Internet Explorer and run that.  Or you
run Opera, which is an even faster download.  You don't need to recompile or
build anything.

> What isn't as simple as "Windows"?  Why?

Getting a decent browser isn't as simple, as multiple posts here have made
clear.  Why?  Because UNIX is still a geek's operating system.

> It's faster to do it over a 28.8 kb/s modem
> with Microsoft?

No, it's just very hard to imagine anyone geek enough to run FreeBSD as a
desktop having a 10-year-old modem as his connection to the Net.  Don't all
geeks have broadband by now?

> I don't see any galeon binaries there.

Galeon is not what you'd be running.  Look for Internet Explorer.

> This is a viewpoint you haven't substantiated.

You disagree that servers and desktops are two different types of machines?

> Not true.  I use Linux binaries as a matter
> of course on my FreeBSD boxes.

And what about binaries for all those other flavors of UNIX?  Why do you
need different binaries in the first place, if they can all interoperate?

> Nobody needs Microsoft.  It's just the path of
> least resistance.

People who have to do real work in real-world business environments _need_
Microsoft operating systems, unless they have requirements limited enough to
run on a Mac.  Virtually no one has such restricted requirements for IT that
they can run UNIX on their desktops.


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