From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 17 20:24:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A16137B405 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:24:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tech_info@threespace.com) Received: from Atlanta.threespace.com ([24.21.224.204]) by femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010618032401.BCXY25303.femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com@Atlanta.threespace.com> for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:24:01 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010617230116.0178b970@mail.threespace.com> X-Sender: tech_info@mail.threespace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:16:57 -0400 To: FreeBSD Chat From: Technical Information Subject: Re: System Tuning/Sysadmins In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010617213259.0178bb88@mail.threespace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org With the exception of the lone computer that I have here at home, building a system from the ground up is a luxury that I've never had. In the workplace, I've always had my computer's specifications spelled out for me before I ever got to it, and in some cases I inherited someone else's computer. Fortunately, I'm not a UNIX admin, so my needs are limited to "get the computer to do blah, blah" more than fixing anything. And once I've got it working using a GUI or script or anything else, I moved on to the next "to do" item and never looked back. The UNIX gurus that I've seen on this list and other places are usually people who are paid to set up and fix such systems. (I'm still undecided whether these folks are lucky or not.) Otherwise they're people who seem to just love UNIX. But out there on the fringes are people like me who really don't know the difference between the services and inet.d files, people who just know that UNIX makes the best darn FTP/mail/other server we've ever had. --Chip Morton At 09:43 PM 6/17/2001, David Scheidt wrote: >Well, if you build a machine by hand, you're going to have a much better >grasp of how it all fits together. If you just use admintool, sam, smit or >whatever, you will have no idea of what it does to do things. When >something breaks, if you know what you had to do to get things set up, >you've got a better chance of being able to fix it. Trouble shooting is >often guess work, but the more you know, the better your guesses will be. > >David >: >-- >dscheidt@tumbolia.com >Bipedalism is only a fad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message