From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 11 08:14:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEA016A580 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:14:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4955F13C442 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:14:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id l0B8ERAu039285 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:14:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id l0B8EPj0039284; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 ([192.168.200.61]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA19146; Wed, 10 Jan 07 22:28:59 PST Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:31:37 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: jerrymc@msu.edu Message-Id: <45a5d9c9.jJmad7eY0Nskstdt%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <45A2805E.7060000@ccstores.com> <20070109222558.GA75695@xor.obsecurity.org> <20070110003730.GA94711@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070110073106.89d726a8.coolzone@io.dk> <20070110154651.GB97702@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20070110154651.GB97702@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: coolzone@io.dk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, speedtoys.racing@gmail.com Subject: Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:14:29 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:59:20PM -0800, Jeff Mohler wrote: > > > Not all of us can program..but let me ask this question. > > > > Linux is all volunteer, how did it get so far ahead? > > It isn't. People in the know like FreeBSD as a server which > is where it is mostly targeted - to the professional environment > as apposed to being a playtop. Linux sure isn't all volunteer*, but it is certainly ahead in terms of available commercial applications, else why would anyone have gone to the trouble of building FreeBSD's Linux API support? * Until Red Hat went to 'EL, all of their technical folks were working full-time on free Linux. It's now less than 100% -- some effort goes into their payware versions -- but still considerably more than 0% last I heard. Then we have Novell supporting SuSE, IBM supporting Yellow Dog, Intel and IBM supporting OSDL (which employs Linus himself, among others), and that's probably not a complete list of even the major commercial players. On the BSD side, we have Apple (Darwin); and maybe a few others although none come to mind immediately. So why is Linux ahead in commercial support? I'm sure I don't have a clue as to most of the factors, but the fact that Linux has somehow managed to avoid schisms in its kernel development can't help but be an advantage.