From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 29 18:44:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C672116A494 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greenwood.andy@gmail.com) Received: from pproxy.gmail.com (pproxy.gmail.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAF743D46 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:44:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from greenwood.andy@gmail.com) Received: by pproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b36so824523pyb for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:44:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AHrRVh/loeQrJ0aRcbJlsiJQN8l0dCj69v/N48qtOKqkMsy7qNZyqIIJPH/l2Y8wXnNo0DAvBV+HMQ2AShAuyG8MdKYKjOSpdgRFaPDp1vo74MDnzjKg3MuvVQpe63Feq4pgsvaG1s2NDNkrOa8xiDOvXTaSHD6wp1GVbhDXqAI= Received: by 10.35.131.4 with SMTP id i4mr606701pyn; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.52.10 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:44:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3ee9ca710603291044x3f07dd98hf4ea8199ac94eaa4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:44:07 -0500 From: "Andy Greenwood" To: "Kris Kennaway" In-Reply-To: <20060329172030.GA77187@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200603281234.11850.satyam@sklinks.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20060329141021.023e9af8@broadpark.no> <20060329172030.GA77187@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Joseph Vella , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why are so many people using 4.x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:44:11 -0000 On 3/29/06, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 02:17:31PM +0200, Vaaf wrote: > > At 22:34 28.03.2006, Joseph Vella wrote: > > >I notice a lot of references to version 4.x. Is there any > > >overwhelming reason > > >why its use seems to be still popular. I'm wanting to set up a server > > >(just > > >for play) on my home network using a PII machine. Am I better off > using an > > >older version for such old equipment? If so, do any particular > versions > > >stand out? > > > > FreeBSD, and UNIX for that matter, is based off 30-year-old concepts. > > Noboy can deny this. I don't, and I don't think anyone would deny that statement. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that those concepts are not solid ground on which to build an OS. Hammurabi wrote the first set of laws for a civilized nation, and those laws have been under refinement for the past ~2200 years. Granted there are some problems with current laws, but just like in (most first-world) countries where the public has a say in how they are governed, so does the open source community have a say in the development of thier projects. That being said, you can compare the development > > of FreeBSD to building a skyscraper on shallow grounds. Naturally, the > more > > you build the more building is likely to collapse. Please explain how building an OS on solid techniquies and with a mind towards usability, stability, and scalability constitutes building on shallow grounds. Furthermore, please explain what shallow ground actually means. I was under the impression that all grounds are pretty deep, going through the core of the Earth and all.... This is now the case with > > the old FreeBSD (in which a couple of smart guys decided to savior into > > DragonFly) versus the new FreeBSD. I think the same thing is happening > > with Windows versus Vista. As OS development progresses, this little > > theory of mine will become more and more obvious. If anyone on this lis= t > can > > contribute with facts and observations to strenghten this theory, I > would > > really appreciate it. > > ...because you have none of your own. > > Kris > > >