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Date:      Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:48:34 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Jacob Ritorto <jritorto@tsoft.net>
To:        Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: migrating to FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.01.9810021231570.2572-100000@juniper.tsoft.net>
In-Reply-To: <199810021332.JAA07687@lakes.dignus.com>

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Yikes, I remember that problem when I tried to span a few floppies with
Linux a few years back (I'd mentally accused Linux of being too rouge
because of that sort of quirkyness and that's part of the reason I
converted to FreeBSD, actually.  Now I hear it's GNU's fault!).  So I have
that to look forward to in addition.  Yes, I did use the capital M to
write a multi-tape tar.  Two forty-meg QICs, actually.

here's a script of what's going on.  I have a few ^Hs in there, but I
think you'll get the idea of what's happening.  Can't access the raw
devices and ft won't talk to the tape unless it has a certain header.

thanks again..


>From root@.MISSING-HOST-NAME. Fri Oct  2 12:44:36 1998
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:43:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Charlie Root <root>
To: jritorto

Script started on Fri Oct  2 12:39:24 1998
sh-2.02# tar -xvFM^H ^H^H ^H^H ^HvMf -^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^G^[[1@ft^[[1@t^H^[[1@ ^[[1@|^[[1@ 
Incorrect volume inserted.  This tape is:
"Linux raw format V2" - Mon Apr 27 00:17:50 1998

Insert ftfilt volume 01 and press enter:Linux raw format v2^H ^H^H ^HV2"^H ^H
ft: using secondary header
Incorrect volume inserted.  This tape is:
"Linux raw format V2" - Mon Apr 27 00:17:50 1998

Insert ftfilt volume 01 and press enter:ft: waiting for drive to become ready
ft: using secondary header
Incorrect volume inserted.  This tape is:
"Linux raw format V2" - Mon Apr 27 00:17:50 1998

Insert ftfilt volume 01 and press enter:ft: waiting for drive to become ready
ft: using secondary header
Incorrect volume inserted.  This tape is:
"Linux raw format V2" - Mon Apr 27 00:17:50 1998

Insert ftfilt volume 01 and press enter:ft: waiting for drive to become ready
ft: using secondary header
Incorrect volume inserted.  This tape is:
"Linux raw format V2" - Mon Apr 27 00:17:50 1998

Insert ftfilt volume 01 and press enter:ft: waiting for drive to become ready
^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C
sh-2.02# 
sh-2.02# ls /dev/*ft*
/dev/ft0	/dev/ft0a	/dev/rft0	/dev/rft0a
sh-2.02# dd if=/dev/ft0 of=part1
dd: /dev/ft0: Operation not supported by device
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes transferred in 0.002494 secs (0 bytes/sec)
sh-2.02# dd if=/dev/ft0 of=part1^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^[[1@a
dd: /dev/ft0a: Operation not supported by device
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes transferred in 0.002441 secs (0 bytes/sec)
^[[Ash-2.02# dd if=/dev/ft0a of=part1
sh-2.02# ^[[Kdd if=/dev/ft0a of=part1^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H/f^[[1@f^Hf^H^Hf^[[1P^H^[[1@rft0a^H^[[1P
dd: /dev/rft0: Operation not supported by device
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes transferred in 0.002512 secs (0 bytes/sec)
sh-2.02# dd if=/dev/rft0 of=part1^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^[[1@a
dd: /dev/rft0a: Operation not supported by device
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes transferred in 0.002448 secs (0 bytes/sec)
sh-2.02# 
sh-2.02# 
sh-2.02# ft
"Linux raw format V2" - Mon Apr 27 00:17:50 1998
sh-2.02# ft | dd if=- of=part1
dd: -: No such file or directory
Incorrect volume inserted.  This tape is:
"Linux raw format V2" - Mon Apr 27 00:17:50 1998

Insert ftfilt volume 01 and press enter:
ft: waiting for drive to become ready
^C^C^C^C^C^C^C
sh-2.02# exit

Script done on Fri Oct  2 12:43:10 1998

	 

On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Thomas David Rivers wrote:

> > 
> > Hello.  I've read and been impressed by your FreeBSD propaganda and have
> > converted to your platform from Slackware Linux.
> > 	During the migration, I backed up all my serious data to QIC-80
> > tapes using tar.  Now when I try to retrieve the data, the ft filter
> > says that I've inserted the wrong volume and won't accept the
> > volume name of the Linux-generated tape.  How do I get around this?  The
> > data was a backup of an old operating system for my pdp11 and I can't
> > replace it, so it's critical.
> > 
> > thanks in advance
> > 
> > Jacob Ritorto
> > 
> > 
> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
> > 
> 
>  Jacob -
> 
> 	Did you do this with tar cvfM  and have multiple volumes?
> 
> 	If so, the problem you're reporting is caused by a bug in GNU tar.
> 	I've had it myself several times.  It seems to happen when a large
> 	file (larger than the block size) crosses a tape boundary.
> 
> 	Don't despair though - all of your data is there.  GNU tar has
> 	simply written too much on the second tape.
> 
> 	The solution I use is to simply dd the tape images.  Then with
> 	appropriate dd's, you can "chop off" the extra parts.
> 
> 	Another approach I've taken is to use pdtar (available in the usenet
> 	archives) which ignores GNU's multivolume stuff.   Then, you 
> 	can get the file which cross the boundary and put it back together
> 	appropriately (again, taking the "extra" stuff off of the front of
> 	the second half.)
> 
> 		- Dave Rivers -
> 
> 



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