From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 22 18:33:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AB8106564A; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21868FC14; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf9 with SMTP id 9so793592ywf.13 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:33:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AktZrzd9oHXbnasUqSMAV4ZALA/kS66Fjru+IehHlP8=; b=tKCZjtaJLfr6deTQ4gvIZD5HFxvHZ8WCtRglp9/INZ/X0PGFEFhvLnC0maAU19C0Vx JQMANg39r4jcglu+bFRS6kR2oInwaZnJ5HFx04GYo/Vw4iZE2wzShj3pEIgkqlmwpxUZ BWt0hRpkOFBoZ4fgsYW4sZb08OZZmo7ZsKN/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LTmHUPTF69qjGeDX19YB4+jiGgatF7XqSlayDVfuoR1icEDy5AQfXXbSfYzHW0SQx9 IhVRbUdm+Jp0+A0oGUNui38PD7A9pFn0aXRMAJ8wjADvaaNHimUnD9WPJFjytTeTfRs9 HScfolLLnrOiuwqJ0eeVoZYJDuHnRGd+A10+w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.83.17 with SMTP id k17mr1818226yal.9.1298397998344; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.146.186.29 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:06:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201102221738.p1MHchsd016185@svn.freebsd.org> References: <201102221738.p1MHchsd016185@svn.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:06:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: Ben Kaduk To: Bruce Cran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD-Hackers Subject: Re: svn commit: r218953 - stable/8/usr.sbin/sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:33:26 -0000 [replying to the MFC that triggered the connection] On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > Author: brucec > Date: Tue Feb 22 17:38:43 2011 > New Revision: 218953 > URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/218953 > > Log: > =A0MFC r218840: > > =A0Remove the quotas option from the Startup Services menu. > =A0GENERIC has no support for quotas so this option has no effect. Do you know why GENERIC does not have quota support enabled? I note that the Debian/kFreeBSD folk have enabled quota support for the kernel they ship: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D608995 In that report, emaste@ is quoted as saying: > If you mean "kFreeBSD should ship with a quota-enabled kernel" then I'd > say go for it. The reason we don't have it on in upstream FreeBSD is > largely historical; enabling quotas used to require additional locking > that caused performance and other issues. The additional locking is now > not required, and it's just that nobody has stepped in to turn them on. If you believe everything you read on the internet, "In order to achieve a modern operating system, the quota support should be active by default, not achieved only after compilation of a custom kernel." Is there more to "stepping in and turning them on" than just the one-line change? -Ben Kaduk