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In message: <20040714180816.GA5503@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net>
            Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net> writes:
: But anyway, if you think that all serial devices should have tty$#
: and cua$#, then just implement it that way. It's better to get this
: rework behind us. I can adjust. If not, then I can at least commit :-)

I know that a lot of people will have to adjust.  I have several files
with things like /dev/ucom0 in them....

: > The plan is to make them on-demand-devices (clonable) so that they
: > do not clutter up /dev but appear if you access them.  That would
: > leave only the ttyu0 and cuau0 devices.
: 
: Yes! I like the cloning.

What's the cloning plan?

Warner