From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 00:24:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A09037B401 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from desktop-guardian.com (desktopguardian.plus.com [81.174.142.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 520DD43FB1 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:24:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simong@desktop-guardian.com) Received: (qmail 13197 invoked by uid 1006); 31 Jul 2003 07:24:20 -0000 Received: from simong@desktop-guardian.com by dtg25 by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (clamscan: 0.54. spamassassin: 2.55. Clear:. Processed in 6.214481 secs); 31 Jul 2003 07:24:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dtg17) (192.168.0.17) by 192.168.0.25 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 07:24:09 -0000 Message-ID: <008a01c35734$71884de0$1100a8c0@dtg17> From: "Simon Gray" To: "marlon corleone" , References: <20030731035152.26870.qmail@web10010.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:22:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: telnet and router question X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Simon Gray List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:24:07 -0000 > why is it router is invented, since in windows BOX it > can act as a router which has ICS builtin, Windows you have to pay a fortune for, its unreliable, insecure the list is endless. Plus you try a configure windows with ics to route between several interfaces... Not to mention that (i'm guessing on this one correct me if im wrong) routers were probably around long before, windows? >and 2nd why > is it most routers configured through telnet services > since it is being considered as "inseceure". can a > router be configured through SSH, since it was being > favored to be used for better security. telnet sends data over the wire in clear text, where as ssh uses encryption (cipher text)