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Date:      Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:49:12 +0100
From:      Andre Oppermann <oppermann@networx.ch>
To:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Karim Fodil-Lemelin <fodillemlinkarim@gmail.com>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erma?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?l_Lu=E7i?= <eri@freebsd.org>, "Clement Hermann \(nodens\)" <nodens2099@gmail.com>, freebsd-net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: igb and ALTQ in 9.1-rc3
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On 11.12.2012 22:36, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> .. the ALTQ compatibility stuff for buf_ring and drbr_* is just plain ew.
>
> The question is, who is going to step up and make that work? I'm
> certainly not going to; when I teach net80211 and ath(4) about
> if_transmit, I'm going to do it in a way that breaks ALTQ. And it'll
> stay broken until I've ironed out all of the 802.11 and driver related
> kinks that exist, and then it'll only come back up once we've all come
> up with a much more sensible way to stuff this kind of queue
> management into our network drivers.
>
> We -know- we need a much more generic implementation of packet queue
> management. Someone just needs to come up with one. :-)

As I've said earlier I'm working and cleaning up of the stack/driver
interface and API.  It started out to better integrate the offload
capabilities, reduce code duplication and to audit their usage in the
drivers.  While doing that I've noticed, as others have, a couple more
issues including the queuing problem.  So work is under way and by
early next year a prototype for further discussion should be ready.

-- 
Andre




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