From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 26 15:18:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D20C37B401; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 15:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (217-ip-163.nccn.net [209.79.217.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757D843F85; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 15:18:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (scratch.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.3]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h3QMHuXB040660; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 15:18:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200304262218.h3QMHuXB040660@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 15:17:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis To: kientzle@acm.org In-Reply-To: <3EAADD13.50207@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: ru@FreeBSD.org cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: i386/loader compiled with NOFORTH X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 22:18:11 -0000 On 26 Apr, Tim Kientzle wrote: > Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 04:49:21PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: >>>Does bzip2 really buy us that much more space than >>>gzip in this case? >> >> ... saves us 50-60K of space on 1.44MB floppies. > > > People still use 1.44MB floppies? I don't > even have floppy drives in my PCs anymore. I've got one machine here that won't boot from CDROM unless a floppy drive is installed. The BIOS complains about the lack of a floppy drive unless the floppy is disabled in the BIOS. If the floppy is disabled in the BIOS, it also seems to disable recognition of the El Torito boot image on the CDROM. If I install a floppy drive, I can boot directly from the CDROM. On the other hand, I've got another machine that doesn't have either. I use PXE to boot and do an automatic installation. > Perhaps it's time to demote the boot floppies > to second-class status. People who can't boot > from CD-ROM don't need driver support for the > newest, fanciest hardware in the installation > kernel. That's true.