From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 29 03:00:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277DE37B401 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:00:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B23643F85 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:00:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2TAxtSM004937; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 11:59:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: "Julian H. Stacey" From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 29 Mar 2003 11:30:57 +0100." <200303291031.h2TAUw378946@flip.jhs.private> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 11:59:55 +0100 Message-ID: <4936.1048935595@critter.freebsd.dk> cc: Stephen McKay cc: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs-cur X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 11:00:08 -0000 In message <200303291031.h2TAUw378946@flip.jhs.private>, "Julian H. Stacey" wri tes: >Peter Jeremy wrote: >> > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 03:43:06PM +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: >> >PS I have no idea how many people use ctm nowadays. Do we have an count? >> postmaster@freebsd.org should be able to tell you how many people are >> on the various mailing lists. An accurate count of people downloading >> from the FTP sites would take more effort but could probably be derived >> from the FTP server logs. > >Difficult to count: >To avoid under counting, one would need logs from all offical mirrors >(even if we ignore unofficial & behind firwall mirrors). > >To avoid over counting, we'd need to avoid double counting people >like me, that ftp a few but not all deltas from a local mirror each >time the local mail system loses a delta or piece. I also use >different email addresses to ftp, & assume some others do that too. Send out a specially doctored CTM delta which adds a patch which sends back an email -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.