From owner-svn-src-projects@freebsd.org Mon Apr 1 13:30:15 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-projects@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE0C156335B for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 13:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8749F6F0CC; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 13:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id x31DUC00015186; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 06:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id x31DUCYY015185; Mon, 1 Apr 2019 06:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201904011330.x31DUCYY015185@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: svn commit: r345760 - in head: contrib/pf sys/netpfil/pf sbin/pfctl In-Reply-To: To: Mateusz Guzik Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 06:30:12 -0700 (PDT) CC: Kristof Provost , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-projects@freebsd.org Reply-To: rgrimes@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8749F6F0CC X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.95 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.951,0] X-BeenThere: svn-src-projects@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the src " projects" tree" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 13:30:15 -0000 > On 4/1/19, Kristof Provost wrote: > > Author: kp > > Date: Mon Apr 1 06:51:32 2019 > > New Revision: 345760 > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/345625 > > > > Log: > > pf: Remove obsolete pf > > > > pf in FreeBSD lags years behind OpenBSD's pf. > > Remove it. > > > > Users are advised to migrate to ipf. > > > > I think you jumped the gun here. I understand maintaing pf in isolation > is a burden and it prompted the removal, but there are other projects > which also have the port. > > I think a reasonable course of action would be to maintain a portable pf > port as a join effort with NetBSD. To that end you can start with > replacing FreeBSD network stack with theirs to increase compatibility. > > After that it's all smooth sailing. If there is desire to create/maintain a *BSD pf port within the communtiy I would love to see that team formed. I have direct feedback from some community that would like to see FreeBSD update its pf code, is there some people who would like to take this work on? I had started a private conversation with Kristof on this just a few days ago, but was waiting to return to continue that conversation, but since a public one is happening lets just all go over to a list and discuss it? > -- > Mateusz Guzik -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org