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Date:      Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:12:08 +0200
From:      Mattias Pantzare <pantzer@ludd.luth.se>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: DoS from local users (fwd) 
Message-ID:  <199904102112.XAA08294@zed.ludd.luth.se>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:57:32 PDT." <199904102057.NAA01570@apollo.backplane.com> 

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> :That has nothing to do with it. Not for cpu usage. If you have two use=
rs that> :are using all the CPU they can they ought to get 50% of the CPU=
 each. Even if> :one of the users have 1 process and the other have 100 p=
rocesses.
> :
> :Sun has a product for this, Solaris Resource Manager.
> =

>     ... and if one user is *supposed* to be running all those processes=
, then
>     what?  Oh, let me guess:  Now you are supposed to tune each user's =
account
>     independantly.  For a system with general user accounts, this is a =
burden
>     on the sysop.

? Then that user continue to run all those processes, but won't take a bi=
gger =

share of the resources than any other user. This is not diffrent from one=
 =

process not using all the CPU when there are other processes that need CP=
U.

>     If one can't control one's users, one has no business managing them=
.  The
>     last thing FreeBSD needs is some overly complex, sophisticated sche=
duler
>     designed to help bozo sysops stay on their feet.

You can't manage users today as you don't have anyting good to control th=
em =

with. We have that for processes, so you can manage processes.

This helps for runaway daemons and things like that to. (The Web server g=
ets =

75% and the rest to the sql server for example).

Is it worth the trouble to implement? Maybe not.




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