From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 25 15:30:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2D7C9F; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik+lists@cederstrand.dk) Received: from csmtp2.one.com (csmtp2.one.com [91.198.169.22]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 681532363; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (unknown [176.222.238.90]) by csmtp2.one.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A575310947; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.69] ([UNAVAILABLE]. [176.222.238.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:587 (trex/4.8.87); Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:16:42 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: GCC withdraw From: Erik Cederstrand In-Reply-To: <1377440469.1111.124.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 17:24:23 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20130822200902.GG94127@funkthat.com> <105E26EE-8471-49D3-AB57-FBE2779CF8D0@FreeBSD.org> <5217413A.9080105@passap.ru> <20130823111647.GT2951@home.opsec.eu> <521745F2.8050607@passap.ru> <20130824115158.GA88999@zxy.spb.ru> <20130824154217.GE3796@zxy.spb.ru> <20130824224204.GH3796@zxy.spb.ru> <1377440469.1111.124.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> To: Ian Lepore X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: FreeBSD Current , David Chisnall , toolchain@FreeBSD.org, Slawa Olhovchenkov , "Sam Fourman Jr." , Boris Samorodov X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:30:36 -0000 Den 25/08/2013 kl. 16.21 skrev Ian Lepore : >> Please file clang bugs at http://llvm.org/bugs/ >=20 > And THIS is a major reason why FreeBSD needs a compiler in base = instead > of all tools being ports. The last thing we need is to start = responding > to every problem with "this is not my problem, go file a report > upstream." If we're already doing it for the compiler that's supposed > to be the new supported tool, how much worse will peoples' experience = be > when we assert no ownership or responsibility for a toolchain at all? I think it's perfectly reasonable to direct compilation problems in a = program residing in ports to the developers of the compiler. It really = has nothing to do with the FreeBSD base compiler. The reason being that = mplayer relies on a non-docmented GCC-specific asm side-effect, and = there's a one-line patch in the PR which solves the problem, makes the = claim even more absurd. Expecting FreeBSD Clang maintainers to respond to compilation issues in = FreeBSD base seems perfectly reasonable. Expecting them to respond to = random issues in the ~24.000 ports is not. Erik=