From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 14:20:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6EC106566B; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:20:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msommer@somware.com) Received: from somware.com (mail.somware.com [74.95.16.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4CA8FC12; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.3.112] (glacier.argotsoft.com [192.168.3.112]) by somware.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o8ADvPWi028534; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:57:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from msommer@somware.com) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.26.0.100708 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:57:25 -0600 From: Mark Sommer To: , , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: this is probably a little touchy to ask... Thread-Index: ActQ8BjhvRvLvvGWFUCPCW8l119GWw== In-Reply-To: <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Disposition-Notification-To-off: "Mark Sommer" Return-Receipt-To-off: "Mark Sommer" Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 192.168.3.103 Cc: Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:20:34 -0000 On 9/10/10 7:46 AM, "Randal L. Schwartz" wrote: >>>>>> "Jules" == Jules Gilbert writes: > > Jules> Look, I'm just a user. I'm not a Java developer, not a language > Jules> developer, not a run-time specialist. But folks, we got problems! I > Jules> say this because it's becoming really hard to make Java run on a > Jules> browser. > > And that's why I challenged you as to "why". We needed Java to run in > the browser back before we had cross-platform DHTML widgets. But with > HTML5 around the corner, I've got to again ask, "why Java"? > > Java had its day. Time to move on. That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5. I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly. Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser. ~Mark