From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 22 03:23:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685F216A455 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:23:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markzero@logik.ath.cx) Received: from addr9.addr.com (addr9.addr.com [209.249.147.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4F343D6D for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:23:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markzero@logik.ath.cx) Received: from logik.ath.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by addr9.addr.com (8.12.11/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id j6M3NiYX005477; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by logik.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8FF886588; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 04:23:43 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 04:23:43 +0100 From: markzero To: whistles <4whistles@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050722032343.GA45312@logik.ath.cx> References: <42e0044a.3317306b.5585.30fe@mx.gmail.com> <42E058BC.9070004@tog.net> <20050722030707.GA39218@logik.ath.cx> <6aa2374605072120179a0e8b5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6aa2374605072120179a0e8b5@mail.gmail.com> X-GPG-Key: http://darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt X-Fingerprint: B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9DD1 X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (10%) X-ADDRSignature: 2951A1EE Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: Adding OpenBSD sudo to the FreeBSD base system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:23:56 -0000 --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 08:17:57PM -0700, whistles wrote: > On 7/21/05, markzero wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 10:23:56PM -0400, ender wrote: > > > Stephen Major wrote: > > > > > > >You are correct; I made a mistake on that one. > > > >Sudo should not be forced upon anyone. > > > >I do not care if sudo is part of the base system > > > >I just 100% disagree with you wanting to replace su with sudo > > > > > > > >Look the other post that came from the dude before is 100% correct t= his is > > > >a > > > >dumb argument. > > > > > > > If sudo offered the opportunity for more features, but by default > > > behaved exactly the same way as su, I would see no disadvantages to > > > replacing su with sudo. Am i missing something? > >=20 > > What happens if you maintain systems that don't need sudo? > >=20 > > M > >=20 >=20 > You get an _uneeded_ setuid binary=20 >=20 > Do a few extra built in features for some outweigh everyone gettting > another setuid binary? > I say no myself=20 > my 2cents >=20 That was the point that I was not-so-subtly making. :) M --=20 pgp: http://www.darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9dD1 --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iQIVAwUBQuBmvqfaOQ/e/53RAQprmBAAr8e2FCOl8jYGJkal7A/pbQG8Hbe+OsVT Zb4Pm/kYmitaOWE9JRgrsAbeeYOXTyY04RrAaI3RaL+jnCD1duQ8IIXX5BC/9vCT 1hSxx5XpXM5lhuRuODMAqlbNmerMqzVr7821bBZcDQQiVWKwvFydD2Y/nUoC/DVH cmMH0C9HTIfnaTio+H5tciKEuDxRy9Yu62VG2SRwKcWTjlqoO/1gLBbtIhUht2JB cXIOl4nIlGViZMo+bvv+d0YdnZTg5AmUK9DFP0xjhd5kTXG1f1KCyz82U/tYC7lj BknsDLO/0sOIyndS+J+rga3frt/qzvCFJkbZhNCJQXExUxxstg2exRwt56sjSup8 Z37NpZ+oAyE56bs3YM10MUbPRZYN/JoWw4bNJB52h4opYzeqOEMANZPVlWh+b24v CxY6nJCwIQkI3x+4aCYiT9iNlNnTwcSfB+liYkR4F44bdKuaEQk0eVwSh2W5IeMf CHTBH7An71SDGm1J8kQTBTyX3Dy3RzcOdZKkPsNfR3z7y9Tjr4HRflYsMIsOKqZr RBVunq/OFIHlSet8/NXqRuMa5t7R1SBg0QrAmoWY4WtaLw3AJ1FFXD858x0HKAbl ww9Ed7jg69wsRZwR8Qhu/aIzyqqxzTjBbiT8yq4l6Kd0BLGXPrZJ4KssxRqKPYwv VxMFbc7r7nU= =9m75 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2--