From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 24 9:57:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-one.net (adsl-65-71-135-137.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.71.135.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC8B37B40E for ; Fri, 24 May 2002 09:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SAGEONE (sageone [192.168.0.5]) by sage-one.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g4OGvXc33973; Fri, 24 May 2002 11:57:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jackstone@sage-one.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20020524115731.011a5388@mail.sage-one.net> X-Sender: jackstone@mail.sage-one.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 11:57:31 -0500 To: "Morse, Richard E." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: RE: Unknown Crashes In-Reply-To: <375F68784081D511908A00508BE3BB1701EF1AC4@phsexch22.mgh.har vard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:30 PM 5.24.2002 -0400, Morse, Richard E. wrote: >Jack L. Stone [mailto:jackstone@sage-one.net] wrote: > >> I run FBSD 4.5-RELEASE and Apache 1.23 on a computer that >> provides services >> for web server, mail server, FTP server, DNS caching, name >> serving. The >> system has 1GB fast RAM with 1.4GB CPU and 1GB swap drive. >> >> Shortly after, I moved the domains over, I started having >> crashes that seem >> directly related to my tar (gzip) backups which experienced >> no problems >> before. >> >> Are there any ideas out there on this issue....??? Did I give enough >> info....??? > >What happens when you run the tar commands by hand? Try tarring various >subdirectories, and seeing if you can figure out what is causing the issues. >Could it be related to an active filesystem? > >As FreeBSD uses UFS, I do my backups from FreeBSD via dump. There is a lot of >religiosity involved in this (it comes up all the time on the amanda lists), but >from what I've heard, on UFS filesystems dump may be better than tar. At the >very least, if you try a dump and it also fails, you know for certain that >something is wrong with the drives, although if it succeeds you may still be in >the dark. > >HTH, >Ricky > I just incurred one of the worst crashes running tar by hand. It was only a 450MB backup too. Hung up bigger than Dallas, and then started shutting down services... then lost the keyboard, and had to hit the reset button... pretty scary. For further safety, I'm configuring a backup server that will be kept current for redundancy so that I can just flip over the cable when I need to shut down the main server. BUT, haven't even had time to do that yet because of this.... I'm tarring to another drive HD-2 and don't have a tape to dump to. Tapes are good, but they are so sloooowwww. What's the best way to use dump to the backup HD...??? I didn't think I could. .... our website: http://www.sage-one.net/ Best regards, Jack L. Stone Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message