From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 01:57:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334E516A4C0 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amsfep14-int.chello.nl (amsfep14-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E13143FF7 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:57:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dodell@sitetronics.com) Received: from sitetronics.com ([213.46.142.207]) by amsfep14-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20030902085750.VKZR5521.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@sitetronics.com> for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 10:57:50 +0200 Message-ID: <3F545B5B.4070003@sitetronics.com> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 10:56:59 +0200 From: "Devon H. O'Dell" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030820 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux on TechTV September 2, 7pm EDT (Live) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 08:57:53 -0000 Ergh. Forgot to send this to the list. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux on TechTV September 2, 7pm EDT (Live) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 10:56:13 +0200 From: Devon H. O'Dell To: Matt Olander References: <20030902011548.I323@freebsdmall.com> <3F54535E.4070003@sitetronics.com> <20030902011843.B7129@knight.ixsystems.net> When is this going live? I can try to run a few shareware apps in Wine really quickly... it usually works without giving too much crap :) I'm sure it's been shown on techtv before, but playing xbill can't hurt ;) Also perhaps that nethack GUI -- it looks pretty fun (but I dunno, never played it, just seen screenshots). Also don't forget to get flash player 6 working under linux emu. They'll definitely throw that at you -- and if they don't, reinforce that it's there in bsd as well ;) Anyway, lemme know when this is going live and I'll try to think of a few more ideas :) --Devon Matt Olander wrote: >On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:22:54AM +0200, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > > >>I hope these boxes are preconfigured. See if you can fit ports in >>anywhere... also see if you can fit in the FS structure. Those are two >>things that go unnoticed and are two things that Linux has HUGE problems >>with -- packages suck and there's really no standardized filesystem. >>Installing and configuring packages is a nightmare. I'd suggest >>installing something from ports (I dunno, blackbox or xmame or >>something) and display how orderly it goes :). It can't hurt to show >>that FBSD Is Consistent. >> >> > >yup, that's the plan. working on the box now. we had originally planned >a server 'shootout' but I think both the linux guys and the TechTV >producers wanted something more 'fun' > > > >>Unfortunately, we're going head to head with a kernel that's being used >>in a lot of desktop-oriented things. There's no way FBSD will win a >>desktop battle... especially not when the Linux guys break out VMware 4 >>-- which is one of a few apps that FBSD can't emulate due to its kernel >>hooks. >> >> > >yeah, true. hopefully, they didn't think of that ;) >I tried working with the transgaming.com folks to get some windows games >going, but they hadn't tested on FreeBSD for a few revs and it didn't >fly... > >cheers, >-matt > > > >