From owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 20:34:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29DD7AD9 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 20:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22d.google.com (mail-we0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B335323D8 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 20:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id q58so4750584wes.32 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 13:34:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vSA/YDRNAL+xaWk3nikApq6AsFGPkzh2vniayE+igc0=; b=lpcwDc/wxZjyduGQDhF+EqMtiyr8OvRGIbXUV29bztOioKdZfsd5fI2/eHFKiSwHPg P90G/yqLSQ87ZyYpcZkNhKM3eKXeVRtQ9n9pzRFs3itX9MCsq/c0aNWPNJRIjw/KCCDy nSf8tyk2Ygte+7mn7Ab3dhXxRgMpHttcicIRR9IiX4ryJQRcOxU/WZX+gPNgARESYNNj KxfMOmLNJmrjLcDMEfPN/GWLloXsLkSw1LXdvFUwk6ReMO6/iLYsS1A9jb3WTSQgNM5c QU6DN5e5j9+TVcspVfcxutKATGDXzs2Tv8XgrQ7pjsZNE3CpCCKoyhLPSuwvjrW7PHTk OxUA== X-Received: by 10.180.88.167 with SMTP id bh7mr37974wib.12.1407443659909; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 13:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ketas-laptop.mydomain (ketas-laptop6.si.pri.ee. [2001:ad0:91f:0:21a:6bff:fe66:2ad3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a4sm2910443wie.21.2014.08.07.13.34.17 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Aug 2014 13:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Sulev-Madis Silber Message-ID: <53E3E2C7.9000802@hot.ee> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 23:34:15 +0300 From: "Sulev-Madis Silber (ketas)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh , freebsd-arm , John-Mark Gurney Subject: Re: What platform do you use? References: <7EC2AB25-5949-40BF-A5AA-BF4C98F3F640@bsdimp.com> <20140805182438.GP88623@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <20140805182438.GP88623@funkthat.com> X-TagToolbar-Keys: D20140807233415637 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 20:34:22 -0000 On 2014-08-05 21:24, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > I also have a BBW that I occasionally test w/ but since I haven't got > it netbooting, the cost of building an entire image and writing it to > SLOW microsd prevents me from testing as much... I wonder why people like to update their embedded systems by taking card out, completely overwriting it with new data and putting card back in. No wonder that it's slow, complex & heedlessly wears out your flash. If I do this in my BBB I would get myself pissed very soon because of the effort required. I never bothered to netboot too, because I wanted to test it in insecure network conditions. I mean, I don't remember a case where I needed to take HDD to another machine for upgrade. The issue where it's not practical to compile something locally is completely unrelated with this, too.