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Date:      Sat, 06 Feb 1999 06:18:33 -0800
From:      Don Wilde <dwilde1@thuntek.net>
To:        Nicole Harrington <nicole@nmhtech.com>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Is there a reseller program?
Message-ID:  <36BC4F39.A4E4A80A@thuntek.net>
References:  <XFMail.990205154324.nicole@nmhtech.com>

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Nicole Harrington wrote:
> 
> On 05-Feb-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Gregory Sutter  wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 07:05:46PM -0500, Hudson, Laura wrote:
> >>
> >> Of course, before we attack the NT market, we also need to make FreeBSD
> >> easier for the average newbie.  How many times recently have you heard "I
> >> just installed FreeBSD, why doesn't my sound card work, d00d?!???!?!"
> >
> > Speaking of this, I just installed Free BDS, and now my MicroWare
> > UltraPixel 243 card doesn't work.  It was fine under Microsoft.  What
> > did you do to break my computer?
> >
> 
>  *LOL*
> 
>  I invite everyone here to join Josef Grosch and myself on a few installa-thons
> for some similiar experiences. I would love to have a few programmers there to
> experience the true needs of the "comman people" who want to get rid of MS but
> don't want another hobby.
> 
I am struggling with this, too. For myself, although I'm capable of
learning it, there are times when I just want the @#$%!! sound card to
work without my having to sort out 47 different kernel options. I'd
settle for a little script that would make Apache stop complaining at
boot time and set itself up with the domain and IP that I entered on
install.

>  I have to explain that FreeBSD is great, but there *IS* a learning curve.
>  But lets face it, do we really want to run our servers on something for the
> desktop? If we really want that market, we need a FreeBSD-desktop version. IMHO.
> 
I think we're closer than we think. A front end to pkg_info that sorts
and searches, some scripts (as above) to take care of the easy gotchas,
and more documentation aids (like Forrest Cavalier's Reuse RKT, Linux
HOW-TO's, etc.). FreeBSD has a default configuration that it comes up
in, let's just refine that a little by helping it over the rough spots.
Adding a default X configuration -- which doesn't get installed unless
the user requests it -- doesn't take away from FreeBSD's capability as a
server. Server users always need to customize it anyway, as soon as
there's any networking involved beyond a PPP connection. As long as we
never let the GUI admin tools stray from the UN*X mantra of text files,
you'll never lose your command-line capability.

>  BTW: on a side note.
>  At the last installa-thon the Linux group was advertised, but not there. After
> a dozen of so people asked my girlfriend where the Linux people were, she told
> one person that "their server crashed so they could'nt make it, would you like
> to try FreeBSD instead?" Looking like a cat stunned in oncomming headlights
> they turned around and left.
> 
I'd suggest you print out some copies of the Linux World article from
December about how FreeBSD is better at being Linux than Linux. And,
BTW, thanks for the extra effort [install-a-thons]. Glad you stopped
lurking and joined us again. :-)

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