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Date:      Wed, 21 Aug 2002 22:42:01 -0400
From:      "Brian T. Schellenberger" <bts@babbleon.org>
To:        <mike@samsa.com>, <questions@freebsd.org>, "Derek" <derek@durham.net>
Subject:   Re: Promise ATA RAID FastTrak100 TX2 Pro  for Freebsd 4.5
Message-ID:  <200208212242.01475.bts@babbleon.org>
In-Reply-To: <200208212218.AA73335054@samsa.com>
References:  <200208212218.AA73335054@samsa.com>

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Add the following to /boot/loader.conf

hw.ata.wc=0

This will slow down your i/o considerably.  I'm not sure that's what you 
want, though; I thought you were trying to optimize your performance, 
not degrade it.

It will make your data a lot safer.

One of those tradeoffs . . .



On Wednesday 21 August 2002 10:18 pm, Mike Stackhouse wrote:
| Thanks - where would we disable write cache?
|
| Mike
| ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
| From: "Brian T. Schellenberger" <bts@babbleon.org>
| Date:  Wed, 21 Aug 2002 21:45:52 -0400
|
| >On Wednesday 21 August 2002 09:23 pm, Mike Stackhouse wrote:
| >| Thanks - we'll try without softupdates.
| >
| >Softupdates should increase both performance and reliability, at the
| >cost of sometimes making you "seem" to have less disk space than you
| >actually have when the updates are behind the requests.
| >
| >(This problem is apparently fixed in -CURRENT, though.)
| >
| >So there's no reason not to try it and see what happens but I'd be
| >surprised if it *helped* performance to turn off softupdates. 
| > Another thing that of course that has an huge impact on performance
| > is write caching; disabling it is slower but safer; enabling it is
| > faster but more dangerous.
| >
| >Personally I take advantage of the increased performance that
| >softupdates gets me to disable the write caching.  This is much
| > safer than without softupdates and with write caching and only
| > slightly slower.
| >
| >I personally strong recommend *against* enabling both write caching
| > and softupdates at the same time; it should be very fast but in my
| > experience it makes it very, very easy to lose state on power-down.
| >
| >| Interesting comment on no support for hot swap.
| >
| >Support for hot swap in ATA was added during the 4.5-STABLE period
| > and is in 4.6-RELEASE.  It is not present in 4.5-RELEASE. 
| > Unfortunately, the "new" ATA code that added this support also
| > broke some ATA stuff, especially w/r/t CD-ROMs, so a test
| > configuation might be advisable first to make sure that the cure
| > isn't worse than the disease.
| >
| >| Our whole intention
| >| for raid-1 is to prevent system downtime in case of drive failure.
| >| From your comment, doesn't sound like FreeBSD supports this? 
| >| Would our only alternative be software raid?
| >|
| >| Thanks in advance!
| >| ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
| >| From: "Derek" <derek@durham.net>
| >| Date:  Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:22:12 -0400
| >|
| >| >> Is there something we should do to optimize our configuration?
| >| >
| >| >We have installed the very same product on one of our FreeBSD
| >| >boxen, it was 4.4-STABLE when we ran the install program, and
| >| >every thing went smooth.  I believe this was before softupdates
| >| >was enabled by default.  Perhaps when you are creating your mount
| >| >points you could try disabling softupdates and see if that makes
| >| >a difference.
| >| >
| >| >As a side note (that you might want to know), I don't believe
| >| >that the driver in FreeBSD supports hot swap.  At least any time
| >| >we've had a drive fail, we get a kernel panic, and it's rebuild
| >| >mirror from the card's BIOS.
| >| >
| >| >Regards,
| >| >Derek
| >|
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| >
| >--
| >Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . .   bts@babbleon.org (personal)

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