From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 22 23:25:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D565E11; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [IPv6:2001:1470:ff80::25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C0F164BA9; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amavis-proxy-ori.ijs.si (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3k5xcx0L8Qz1Jm; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 00:25:53 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ijs.si; h= user-agent:message-id:references:in-reply-to:organization :subject:subject:from:from:date:date:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:mime-version:received:received :received:received; s=jakla4; t=1419290750; x=1421882751; bh=pH5 8AU9pNtdsFkFaSR6W5FJ3BsNNelrdMrQYsj3Tobw=; b=DdNp9abNeOM7LQQ8aJo +kU3RHxFoADIlKmTaa47TyfWg3bQ6x7QMncl+FN6OAjMprrmp4fKpMLMfLCYGESk Ss1pjIcv6Te1L8RYuBT4AbI5TxPA3xdXHJPWEa6VzhOnPRUw56SefTaR3Wuhyi17 q2Y1hRmWK9gEMOVqT99RVWA8= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si Received: from mail.ijs.si ([IPv6:::1]) by amavis-proxy-ori.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10012) with ESMTP id m3De4m_4C6De; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 00:25:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from mildred.ijs.si (mailbox.ijs.si [IPv6:2001:1470:ff80::143:1]) by mail.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 00:25:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from neli.ijs.si (neli.ijs.si [IPv6:2001:1470:ff80:88:21c:c0ff:feb1:8c91]) by mildred.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3k5xcs6jKLz15J; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 00:25:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from sleepy.ijs.si ([2001:1470:ff80:e001::1:1]) by neli.ijs.si with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Tue, 23 Dec 2014 00:25:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 00:25:49 +0100 From: Mark Martinec To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removal of XAA acceleration in X.org, and older NVIDIA GeForce Organization: J. Stefan Institute In-Reply-To: <20141222201853.08bfcc64@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> References: <9f15ce6462062541cbaf3919ec420315@mailbox.ijs.si> <20141222201853.08bfcc64@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> Message-ID: <60b1d359da424d31e6594bda091c63f3@mailbox.ijs.si> X-Sender: Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:25:56 -0000 Tijl Coosemans wrote: > This card is still supported by x11/nvidia-driver-304 Good suggestion! It does seem to draw screen and scroll much faster than NV (although it seems to stall from time to time (like unresponsive mouse) on a busy host). Will need to test more thoroughly tomorrow when poudriere builds will be over. Thanks! Mark 2014-12-22 20:18, je Tijl Coosemans napisal > wrote: >> /usr/ports/UPDATING: >>> 20141219: >>> AFFECTS: users of x11/xorg and all xorg ports >>> AUTHOR: dumbbell@FreeBSD.org >>> The X.Org server (x11-servers/xorg-server) is updated to 1.14. >>=20 >> http://blogs.freebsdish.org/graphics/2014/11/19/xserver-1-14-update-read= y/ >>> Changes since xserver 1.12 >>> The most visible change is the removal of XAA. This is a 2D >>> acceleration >>> method which was deprecated some time ago, in favor of EXA or >>> Intel-specific=E2=80=99s >>> UXA or SNA. For the end user, this means that some drivers >>> (xf86-video-*) >>> are not supported anymore, mostly for older GPUs according to=20 >>> Phoronix. >>> If you encounter this case, please let us know. >>=20 >> Ouch!!! Upgrading X -related ports went with no problems (FreeBSD=20 >> 10.1), >> but I didn't realize the outcome would be so terrible. Scrolling or >> refreshing a full-screen page in a web browser now feels like in the >> good old days of a 19200 bps line and a glass terminal. Even scrolling >> or paging through plain text with 'less' or editor on a KDE konsole >> or xterm feels sluggish. Certainly the size of the display does not >> help in this regards (2560x1600). >>=20 >> The Xorg.0.log reports: >> NV: Found NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT at 02@00:00:0 >>=20 >> Now I fear that upgrading ports on my other workstation >> (GeForce 7600 GS) would lead to similar results. >>=20 >> I know these graphics boards are not the latest of breed >> (the CPU and mb are still fairly decent). They were chosen for being >> fan-less, and coping sufficiently well with 2D and text even on >> largish displays. >>=20 >> So is my only choice now replacing graphics with heat- and noise- >> sources I don't really need, or being stuck with frozen ports? >> I wonder if I'm the only one in this situation.