From owner-freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 27 06:28:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3254E106566B for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:28:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbowie@buzmo.com) Received: from mail138.messagelabs.com (mail138.messagelabs.com [216.82.249.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E086013C46E for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:28:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbowie@buzmo.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: mbowie@buzmo.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-138.messagelabs.com!1204093712!21702220!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [69.12.11.77] Received: (qmail 19528 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2008 06:28:32 -0000 Received: from smtp1.dfw.fabriclabs.com (HELO smtp1.dfw.fabriclabs.com) (69.12.11.77) by server-10.tower-138.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 27 Feb 2008 06:28:32 -0000 Received: from [192.168.10.111] (adsl-70-234-82-212.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [70.234.82.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.dfw.fabriclabs.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1R6SLgt071624; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:28:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mbowie@buzmo.com) Message-ID: <47C5030E.8070706@buzmo.com> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:28:30 -0800 From: Mike Bowie User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lewis References: <20080219213031.GB85220@osiris.chen.org.nz> <20080220.103213.233678772.ken@tydfam.jp> <47BB8C82.2000909@buzmo.com> <20080220.131304.-345497826.ken@tydfam.jp> <47BBCDD8.4020305@buzmo.com> <47BD6FDF.2070603@rucci.org> <20080226191203.GA81385@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <20080227020607.GA13884@soaustin.net> <20080227043149.GA84411@misty.eyesbeyond.com> In-Reply-To: <20080227043149.GA84411@misty.eyesbeyond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-java@freebsd.org, pieter@degoeje.nl, Daniel Rucci , freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Subject: Re: java/eclipse and jdk1.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD users of eclipse EDI, tools, rich client apps & ports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:28:34 -0000 Greg Lewis wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 08:06:07PM -0600, Mark Linimon wrote: >> Mass category moves are stressful for our users IMHO, so we should only >> use them if we really feel the hierarchy will be in much better shape >> going forwards. > > So thats the big question. If we leave the category there it will continue > to gather new ports despite our best intentions for what we want people to > commit there. We know that this will cause confusion since it leaves users > unsure of where they should look for certain ports. Do we think that level > of confusion is a greater pain than the pain of gutting the category > (either over time or in one hit). > If I may... I don't believe that it's going to get any better over time... so if not now, when? Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of confusion, but in the long run the intention is to improve clarity. Mike. ------- The standard IMHO disclaimer applies to any statements I may or may not have made above.