From owner-freebsd-wireless@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 07:50:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F42102B5 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 07:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm20-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84FA3274B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 07:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.196.81.156] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2014 07:43:29 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.241] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2014 07:43:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2014 07:43:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1402299809; bh=HkMrrkHpDsd+IKMkMAeZAn5S3gn+h8prNJoYeoARAj4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:Date:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:CC:Subject; b=sGa8lh/O0oNuPttPgRdSelC1jAdAkvXz842rOUK6O3umgaDq2gwg7ZCeAknQ5PqgJgzNFbrJF/swosZxsUqMzHOr35+RAp3HePV7Zr0bH8MtXF7Cv99k/ZaMdnyLbuh+A7cTQC2dCB85dK3S0I0BT/U/3WyXi+PKmDit1dhoOFk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 394751.84774.bm@smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <394751.84774.bm@smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 00:43:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: EwWc75QVM1n3faYH7aRgPt_6558TEMl5i.PKXUgVHSfXssc plDQU4SB.jlPSq3PZ4O24xveCh01iUdL84QOMg1jWIoskMkjiE4IToTDk9iQ mhYCBvrcjQik6FrJ8QkgcRkyhIjNpM3xH5Y6LvyXLuk1UOIVF.avehYB4h5e MLqkXM.WCTqgQWIG30sRh.wHTWX.NOscYPWEPDR.bwduQ_V17uFupAr.Eu3D .qs20aOoMKkRLbB7mAt4kSbl0.zoZuLbum4J4wt5yu4zT5Ad6MoSIEDmsxLi .CiVD3B3a_y287ly6g7W9KTyMxc8_lBYyP6DWiWJkwKJNHZJGBpXTNnH2NVr 1qBNTINsHKbGehOHr1rPyXHgWWYAhVlSuXZ38YRvzqV_yGlLpZDVFJpcRX7H luKvLbScmtKuooy5A51T3u9FvxRACK5T.kQjYj_2ngHjn8OlKXpvRINPLTma TypfmmaaeOjqnSTKcoAa3eUDRycmSm.LnCMm2RCRQEnC1_gLJXkCYE8Y7HUv 5qIlXbeLxv2pxAtujnb.5fsqw8_9GFMzrKfOV0AtzJ2utNey6BJeLM6S_ X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- X-Rocket-Received: from localhost (mueller6724@96.28.178.143 with plain [98.138.31.74]) by smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Jun 2014 00:43:29 -0700 PDT From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Change for the worse in rsu wireless driver Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussions of 802.11 stack, tools device driver development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 07:50:27 -0000 from Adrian Chadd: > please bug freebsd-usb@ about flakey usb devices. > I have a couple that i need to chase up hans about. they used to be less flakey. Flaky USB devices in FreeBSD, also NetBSD, are not limited to wireless adapters. I get console messages about keyboard and mouse losing connection, when in many cases, mouse and keyboard are still working. Now I think FreeBSD is topping NetBSD for flaky USB connections. NetBSD has no support for Hiro H50191 wireless adapter, device rsu, but supports Atheros on-motherboard (quasi-)USB AR9271. Most of the time, NetBSD fails to load firmware for this Atheros AR9271, error 35, not allowing enough time, but sometimes the firmware loads. Sorry to be late in responding, losing connection slows me down. I've been updating FreeBSD-current and stable/10 from source, both amd64 and i386, whenever I see a change in rsu or re driver. On MSI Z77 MPOWER motherboard, of open-source OSes, only Linux and NetBSD connect with Realtek 8111E/8168 Ethernet. DragonFly newest release, 3.8.0, and OpenBSD 5.4, have same bug as does FreeBSD with this Ethernet. I've also been busy installing NetBSD-current amd64 and i386, now on hard drive on other computer. Now I wish I had installed NetBSD-current amd64 and i386 on this computer with MSI Z77 MPOWER motherboard before FreeBSD to have something to fall back on when FreeBSD misbehaves with Hiro H50191. Remember, I needed to update NetBSD-current amd64 and packages, with subversion, using wired Ethernet, to checkout and update FreeBSD src, ports and doc trees; also had to buy a new wireless router when the Netgear router stopped working. Tom